Fram TG3614 off 22RE 5321 miles cut open

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This is a Tractor Supply Fram clearance filter that was in use for 5321 miles on my 4Runner. 213 hours of driving time and 102 idling total of 315 hours this go round with a moving average of 25 MPH. Filter was in use March to September, almost exactly 6 months to the day. Oil used was Delo 15w30 SD, UOA to follow.

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Originally Posted by JLTD
Looks good...wish my T4R had a spin-on.


There's a company that makes a spin on adapter for your 4Runner but they're expensive as all heck!
 
Originally Posted by maxdustington
TG made for the Canadian market.


It was purchased in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, Marquette to be exact so it being an "export" labeled filter doesn't come as a huge surprise for me. It held up very well, older filters don't scare me a bit.
 
Looks better than my 20k ran TG 4386
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Can't wait for the UOA. Is the stuff in bottom of can bubbles or dirt or am I gettin old?

Thank You Luke
 
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Looks better than my 20k ran TG 4386
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Can't wait for the UOA. Is the stuff in bottom of can bubbles or dirt or am I gettin old?

Thank You Luke


Flecks in the bottom are particles, could be carbon or flakes of rubber/plastic from the timing chain tensioner shoe or timing chain guides. I'm mailing off the UOA this week so it'll be a couple weeks before that's posted. Second oil change on the Lexus likely this week as well for its 3,000 mile flush service.
 
I also have a 4X4, similar to the 4Runner. I have always done OCIs by the miles driven. Who drives their car or passenger truck/SUV and counts the hours driven? I'll bet it's less than 10% of the basic population and probably closer to 5%...... and that may be a generous percentage number.
 
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I also have a 4X4, similar to the 4Runner. I have always done OCIs by the miles driven. Who drives their car or passenger truck/SUV and counts the hours driven? I'll bet it's less than 10% of the basic population and probably closer to 5%...... and that may be a generous percentage number.
Who cares what you think. This is BITOG and cars have hour meters, why not.
 
I put 500k miles on a 22R running the least expensive oil filter and 20w-50 oil (whatever was on sale) with 5k OCI's

That engine will likely out live you!
 
Originally Posted by maxdustington
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I also have a 4X4, similar to the 4Runner. I have always done OCIs by the miles driven. Who drives their car or passenger truck/SUV and counts the hours driven? I'll bet it's less than 10% of the basic population and probably closer to 5%...... and that may be a generous percentage number.
Who cares what you think. This is BITOG and cars have hour meters, why not.



That is a bit of a harsh response, no?

If you multiply the hours by avg speed he mentioned it works out to a normal oci.
 
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I also have a 4X4, similar to the 4Runner. I have always done OCIs by the miles driven. Who drives their car or passenger truck/SUV and counts the hours driven? I'll bet it's less than 10% of the basic population and probably closer to 5%...... and that may be a generous percentage number.


I also OCI by mileage but track the hours just for reference. I change it every 5k, truck just rolled 340,000 miles yesterday. Next OCI will be 345,000.
 
Is this a 4.0 or 4.7? My Tacoma has the 4.0 (1gr-fe), I track my hours and avg speed using my Ultragauge, but it just keeps total running hours. How are you tracking idle hours and driving hours separately?
 
Originally Posted by BlakeB
Is this a 4.0 or 4.7? My Tacoma has the 4.0 (1gr-fe), I track my hours and avg speed using my Ultragauge, but it just keeps total running hours. How are you tracking idle hours and driving hours separately?

I can't read, I see now that you said 22RE. I just saw 4runner and assumed it was a 4th gen based on the filter. Anyhow, I'm still interested in seeing how you're tracking your runtime in idle hours and driving hours.
 
Originally Posted by FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted by JLTD
Looks good...wish my T4R had a spin-on.


There's a company that makes a spin on adapter for your 4Runner but they're expensive as all heck!



Good to know, thanks! I've got enough filters to go a year or three, once I'm on my last one I'll have a look.
 
Originally Posted by BlakeB
Originally Posted by BlakeB
Is this a 4.0 or 4.7? My Tacoma has the 4.0 (1gr-fe), I track my hours and avg speed using my Ultragauge, but it just keeps total running hours. How are you tracking idle hours and driving hours separately?

I can't read, I see now that you said 22RE. I just saw 4runner and assumed it was a 4th gen based on the filter. Anyhow, I'm still interested in seeing how you're tracking your runtime in idle hours and driving hours.


Average moving speed, hours of use, and idle time come from my Garmin GPS. I interpret "stopped time" as idle time, not 100% accurate as it under estimates idle time accrued in neutral or coasting in stop and go traffic and only accounts for time with the engine running and zero vehicle speed. I also use the Garmin to track actual OCI miles as the speedo/odometer is about 4-5% slow compared to actual.
 
Not here to disrespect the OP and complain. Just find it highly unusual to find typical passenger vehicle maintenance intervals determined by an alarm or vehicle radio clock. It would be different if we were discussing typical shop machinery that houses filters, or an over-the-road trucker that must (by law) keep track of road hours.
 
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Not here to disrespect the OP and complain. Just find it highly unusual to find typical passenger vehicle maintenance intervals determined by an alarm or vehicle radio clock. It would be different if we were discussing typical shop machinery that houses filters, or an over-the-road trucker that must (by law) keep track of road hours.


Well, I go by my Maintenance Minder which is exactly 5,000 miles
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J/K Triple Seven, but most times I go 4-4,500k
 
Originally Posted by FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted by JLTD
Looks good...wish my T4R had a spin-on.
There's a company that makes a spin on adapter for your 4Runner but they're expensive as all heck!
Since when is a spin-on oil filter better than a cartridge? You can inspect a cartridge oil filter easily without cutting one open, which you cannot do when new anyway, and they mount in there more securely. I'm surprised anybody thinks a spin-on canister is better.
 
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