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Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
So to get this straight, because you had a bad experience with one tech, and many people have bad experience with quick lube places, you are now smarter than all automotive technicians. I understand. As someone who has worked in dealerships and independent garages with some very smart techs, I'll stick to my own experiences and theirs as opposed to yours.
Your problem is easily fixed by doing the oil change yourself. And it also has nothing to do with techs seeing how many of one engine have expensive failures compared to others.
Please cite this trend of "expensive failures" of the two ecoboost engines which you are apparently referencing against the V8. I submit that all the long block replacements occurring on the 5.0 under TSB 2058 may be of greater concern than these alleged expensive failures of ecoboosts.
As far as my personal faith in dealership skillz... January 2019 (this yr) I took my former car (later traded on the F150), a 2009 Subaru Forester, in to it's dealership for a leaking rear output shaft seal that was causing manual transmission 75W90 to be dispersed onto under carriage and exhaust plumbing. Repair was completed. Required a special tool costing more than the charge for the repair and known to take about 4 hrs DIY is why I opted for dealership work. Fast forward to May 2019. It's leaking again, exact same symptom. Take it back for a do-over. Oh but it's not their seal repair that's causing the exact same leak. Now it's the entire rear module section of the manual trans needs replaced. $900 quote parts and labor. How was that missed the first time? Or was it "change a part and see if that works" instead of proper diagnosis? The output seal housing of the rear module is "warped" was their justification for the 2nd attempt. I politely accepted the estimate invoice and walked. I disclosed the paperwork to the Ford dealer upon negotiating deal on the truck, when trading in the Subaru. Carfax on my Subaru a month later revealed that before they sold it they replaced the shaft seal. Which means one of two things. Either the Subaru dealer was right and the Ford dealer performed wrong repair (replacing only the seal when entire "warped" rear module needed replaced), or the Subaru dealer lied and their initial seal repair was faulty and all the Ford dealer needed to do was correct their work by replacing the seal again.
So to get this straight, because you had a bad experience with one tech, and many people have bad experience with quick lube places, you are now smarter than all automotive technicians. I understand. As someone who has worked in dealerships and independent garages with some very smart techs, I'll stick to my own experiences and theirs as opposed to yours.
Your problem is easily fixed by doing the oil change yourself. And it also has nothing to do with techs seeing how many of one engine have expensive failures compared to others.
Please cite this trend of "expensive failures" of the two ecoboost engines which you are apparently referencing against the V8. I submit that all the long block replacements occurring on the 5.0 under TSB 2058 may be of greater concern than these alleged expensive failures of ecoboosts.
As far as my personal faith in dealership skillz... January 2019 (this yr) I took my former car (later traded on the F150), a 2009 Subaru Forester, in to it's dealership for a leaking rear output shaft seal that was causing manual transmission 75W90 to be dispersed onto under carriage and exhaust plumbing. Repair was completed. Required a special tool costing more than the charge for the repair and known to take about 4 hrs DIY is why I opted for dealership work. Fast forward to May 2019. It's leaking again, exact same symptom. Take it back for a do-over. Oh but it's not their seal repair that's causing the exact same leak. Now it's the entire rear module section of the manual trans needs replaced. $900 quote parts and labor. How was that missed the first time? Or was it "change a part and see if that works" instead of proper diagnosis? The output seal housing of the rear module is "warped" was their justification for the 2nd attempt. I politely accepted the estimate invoice and walked. I disclosed the paperwork to the Ford dealer upon negotiating deal on the truck, when trading in the Subaru. Carfax on my Subaru a month later revealed that before they sold it they replaced the shaft seal. Which means one of two things. Either the Subaru dealer was right and the Ford dealer performed wrong repair (replacing only the seal when entire "warped" rear module needed replaced), or the Subaru dealer lied and their initial seal repair was faulty and all the Ford dealer needed to do was correct their work by replacing the seal again.