I see some listings for EFB batteries, maybe only for boats. What is better about them?
If one wants to upgrade from a standard battery why not just go to an AGM?
If one wants to upgrade from a standard battery why not just go to an AGM?
EFB - great product or a ripoff?
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EFB is supposedly longer lasting than a traditional battery in certain applications such as start/stop.
Cost of EFB vs AGM. 100K cars X $7 as an example adds up. So every part cost is scrutinized.
Rented a new Sentra months ago on vacation that had a EFB battery and it said Renault on it. The car didn't have start-stop however. I'll dig up a pic of it.
Cost of EFB vs AGM. 100K cars X $7 as an example adds up. So every part cost is scrutinized.
Rented a new Sentra months ago on vacation that had a EFB battery and it said Renault on it. The car didn't have start-stop however. I'll dig up a pic of it.
You take pictures of your rental car's battery on vacation?
AFAIK, Toyota installed EFBs in all the Prii(2001-2015) but the hybrid Camry/Avalon/Highlander/RAV4 all got AGMs, and then all of them now use DIN-sized AGM.
There is some benefit to a EFB - it won’t puke acid. Basically, it’s a modern day version of the ACDelco Freedom battery(back when GM made batteries in Anderson, IN/Anaheim, CA/Atlanta, GA).
There is some benefit to a EFB - it won’t puke acid. Basically, it’s a modern day version of the ACDelco Freedom battery(back when GM made batteries in Anderson, IN/Anaheim, CA/Atlanta, GA).
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My Mini has an AGM battery, while my GTI has an EFB. Both are still the factory
ones (Mini: almost 10 years!), both cars came with start/stop and recuperation
tech (I disabled start/stop). However there's a difference in where the batteries
are located and that points to a technical difference between these batteries.
EFBs are superior to AGM batteries in some applications. AGMs don't like heat,
which isn't an issue when located in the luggage compartment (BMW, Porsche)
or separated from the engine bay (Mini), though it could be an issue longterm
when sitting in the engine bay.
No idea if this could be compensated by improved insulation, at least it would
reduce peak temperatures. Of course EFBs are also cheaper compared to AGMs.
Just saying, most automotive engineers aren't stupid, there are valid reasons.
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My Mini has an AGM battery, while my GTI has an EFB. Both are still the factory
ones (Mini: almost 10 years!), both cars came with start/stop and recuperation
tech (I disabled start/stop). However there's a difference in where the batteries
are located and that points to a technical difference between these batteries.
EFBs are superior to AGM batteries in some applications. AGMs don't like heat,
which isn't an issue when located in the luggage compartment (BMW, Porsche)
or separated from the engine bay (Mini), though it could be an issue longterm
when sitting in the engine bay.
No idea if this could be compensated by improved insulation, at least it would
reduce peak temperatures. Of course EFBs are also cheaper compared to AGMs.
Just saying, most automotive engineers aren't stupid, there are valid reasons.
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I take pictures of EVERYTHING!!
I took pictures of my rental in Phoenix over MLK weekend.
Had I observed a unique battery, I might have taken a closer shot of it.
and as a teaser, what the car looked like 2 miles from the airport after an encounter with a hit-and-run driver who left the scene on foot:
Too bad, it was a nice car. We got it with 3 miles on the clock.
I'll give a more detailed review and an account of the accident after it is all settled.
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Enhanced Flooded Batteries huh.. So now we have half a dozen totally different battery types and chargers to confuse the consumer even more..
Start & stop cars are said to benefit from EF batteries, but do they require a different charger?.. Will replacing a conventional lead acid with a EFB battery be beneficial?
"In many areas, EFB matched the performance of AGM, which challenges the long-held belief in the United States that AGM is a better option. In addition, EFB outperformed AGM in several other areas including battery life, heat tolerance and mid-depth cycling resilience.
Evidence provided by more than a decade of use in Europe as well as the latest U.S. study indicates EFB is just as good as AGM in terms of automotive battery performance. In most cases, EFB is even better than AGM."
www.stryten.com
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Start & stop cars are said to benefit from EF batteries, but do they require a different charger?.. Will replacing a conventional lead acid with a EFB battery be beneficial?
"In many areas, EFB matched the performance of AGM, which challenges the long-held belief in the United States that AGM is a better option. In addition, EFB outperformed AGM in several other areas including battery life, heat tolerance and mid-depth cycling resilience.
Evidence provided by more than a decade of use in Europe as well as the latest U.S. study indicates EFB is just as good as AGM in terms of automotive battery performance. In most cases, EFB is even better than AGM."
EFB vs. AGM: What Will Power our Cars in the Future?
While AGM batteries have handled the demands of modern automobiles, EFB technology surpasses AGM in critical areas such as battery life and heat tolerance.
www.stryten.com
Search results for: 'battery by brand exide auto truck suv exide marathon'
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No, any decent (ideally electronically controlled) charger will do.
In theory at least, yes.
Though this is marketing, some of that is true. I mentioned 'heat tolerance'
is better compared to AGM (which is their achilles heel). That's mainly or even
only a factor when the battery resides in the engine compartment.
I wouldn't say 'just as good', as it depends on the application.
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me neither, but freewheel charge system on board. decelerating is stored to 12v battery. (15v)
Those efb batteries look like the type batteries I usually avoid. I generally look for the biggest battery that will fit, with the lowest cca that meets specs. Thinner and more plates means more fragile and easier to fail imho.
I did try the wm $50 group 24 battery in my Mazda, while not an efb battery, it's not cutting it. Replacing with a full size east Penn battery.
I did try the wm $50 group 24 battery in my Mazda, while not an efb battery, it's not cutting it. Replacing with a full size east Penn battery.
Interesting theory - going for the lowest quality available for increased reliability?
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Yes. Thicker and fewer plates, as long as it has the cca of the vehicle spec. I try not to buy more cca than the vehicle spec. More cca means more plates that have to be thinner to fit in the same size group case.
In my opinion, that's higher quality.
Providing a little more detail on what is already mentioned in this thread. Stryten Energy (manufacturer of the Exide brand) claims EFB is superior to AGM in 3 areas: battery life, heat tolerance, and capacity retention.
EFB vs. AGM: What Will Power our Cars in the Future?
While AGM batteries have handled the demands of modern automobiles, EFB technology surpasses AGM in critical areas such as battery life and heat tolerance.
www.stryten.com
Yuasa only recently (2022) started selling automotive batteries in North America, and they also have an EFB battery.
www.yuasasverige.se
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GS Yuasa have expanded their market-leading Yuasa YBX battery range with the launch of a new Enhanced Flooded (EFB) next generation automotive battery. The Yuasa YBX7012 EFB Start-Stop battery is now available to the aftermarket and will increase European parc coverage by over half a…
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