Doing spark plugs on a Lexus, what is this rubber gasket?

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Ok so, this is on 2006 IS250. Worst engine ever btw. And wow what a pain to do the plugs. Like 10x the work compared to BMW (n52 the only other car I've done spark plugs lol) with the manifold removal etc. Anyway. As I'm finishing up I notice a rubber gasket that sits right on top of where you would thread in the spark plug. I'm not talking about the one that goes around the coil and sits on top of the valve cover. And it's also not anything internal - I am positive the valve cover has never been taken off.

Basically I'm really confused. I did not think that this was a thing that exists on any car. The spark plug already has a metal "gasket" that kind of acts as a crush washer built in, right. So the seating surface should be metal also? I could not find any reference to the existence of this kind of rubber gasket anywhere.

I'm also now unsure if the rest have it as well. It's hard to notice because the part where the plug sits is deep, and thus is dark, and it's not unusual for the metal to be dark as well from carbon or whatever. It did feel kinda weird torquing them in hindsight. I'll have to re-check everything. But I need guidance as I have no idea why it's there, whether it should be there, and what's going on.

I'm attaching pics, was hard to get it to focus but you can definitely see it.

Advice is very much appreciated. Also, would it prevent the car from starting if it shouldn't be there, but is? Or vise versa? It does affect how deep it would sit in the combustion chamber by a couple mm. But is that significant enough to cause a no start or would it just run poorly?

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Have never see that on any vehicle. Of course 90% of my under the hood work was mostly on Chevys and Fords. The Hondas needed so little work that I have hardly done much on them OTHER than the spark plugs and minor predictive , preventive maintenance items. No rubber o-ring or gaskets for the plugs that I recall on any of them. Must be a foreign design item. Certainly must be made of some type of really high temp material like a Kalrez or Viton etc......
 
Are you talking about the spark plug tube seals? They press into the valve cover. Pretty normal stuff in this type of engine. View attachment 301105
Good photo - That set up looks close to what some of the high horsepower Mopar vehicles had around valve covers back in the muscle car days. Sure might be very similar to what the OP is seeing after all. Spark plug tube O-rings like goblin found? Probably more cars without that set up than those that have it.
 
I think I understand. The base of the tube the spark plug is nestled down in has a gasket that will press between the tube and the cylinder head. I’ve replaced these on the v8 tundra - I didn’t find them generally any easier or harder than any other particular make, though there certainly exceptions. VC comes off to do these. Then theres one top-side as well for the coil, and you already identified that one.

BMWs are different than working on other vehicles. When I wasn’t as familiar with them, they were harder. Once I worked on a couple, i started to understand them and it was easier. Same with Volvo. The IS250 should be easier next time around!
 
Are you talking about the spark plug tube seals? They press into the valve cover. Pretty normal stuff in this type of engine. Are you talking about the spark plug tube seals? They press into the valve cover. Pretty normal stuff in this type of engine. Are you talking about the spark plug tube seals? They press into the valve cover. Pretty normal stuff in this type of engine.


(Sorry for the late reply) But those are on the underside of the valve cover, right? Like you replace them if you were take off the valve cover. You shouldn't see them when you take out a spark plug and look down into where it threads? And they dont go between the spark plug and the part it screws in. Its between the bottom part of the valve cover and the head, and shouldn't be visible from just taking out a spark plug? Or am I missing something?

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IIRC, the round metal tubes for the sparkplugs are either friction fit or screwed into the head. The top end is open and the top edge seal is for the valve cover to seal the system. The rubber seal that you are concerned about, at the bottom of the tube at the sparkplug hole in head, is replaced only if the sparkplugs show oil has been leaking into the metal tubes..
 
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