I have to agree with you here only 2 Mercedes models are reported out of something like 70 Mercedes models (granted not all in the USA I assume)
"Consumer Reports ranks Toyota, Lexus most reliable, Mercedes worst"
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Sometimes statistics are an inconvenient truth.
Also there are no facts as far as CR surveys smaller and smaller though I am not saying I disagree I will say they are much easier to fill out now but it is still statistics something no one else has.
Really depends on model and engine. Me my self have had bad luck with Toyota Avensis and Auris(Corolla in Us). Something i don't like with Toyota are the expensive parts and under sized brakes. I own Hilux and Land Cruiser.
In 2018 they claimed “more than 500,000” responses, in 2021 and 2022 they claimed “more than 300,000” and even acknowledge that when they went to online only surveys they got significantly less.
ROFL.. Mercedes with only 2 models measured. Sure, this survey is statistically relevant.
Actually all this survey tells me is that the majority of their subscribers buy Toyotas and Fords.
Actually all this survey tells me is that the majority of their subscribers buy Toyotas and Fords.
Yes my 2011 BMW is 2 years old.
People, it is Consumer Reports. You cannot have statistical accuracy unless all brands are sampled with same amount if vehicles, and if survey is actually equally distributed.
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Just wait till Hyundai and Chrysler team up to make hybrids and electric cars!
Seriously though, any car guy could have told you these results. Weird how Acura is below Honda, I would assume the opposite but maybe Acura drivers take their vehicles to the shop more?
I don’t think your 2011 would apply to a 2022 consumer reports reliability graph.
Lol. I am being sarcastic.
The whole exercise by CR doesn’t have any resemblance of validity. In actual research you must determine what is minimum generalizability of survey. In qualitatively methodological research for example minimum of 6 interviews can potentially give you generalizability. In quantitative research like this you must determine that (is it 6 cars? 8? 10?) and what is margin of error.
This doesn’t have any resemblance of seriousness.
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The range is quite fascinating. The spread on BMW (80-53) is much narrower than Toyota (96-39). But, then you look at KIA, 84-5!!!! Which is markedly worse than Jeep at 53-21. However VW is 49-1...
Consumer Reports ranks Toyota, Lexus most reliable, Mercedes worst
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RAM is insanely narrow, 43-42, as is Buick at 55-52.
As somebody else noted, 2 models for Mercedes? That doesn't seem like a large enough sample size to even include them on the chart. Jeep has 8 models, but they included 5.
Ultimately, it would be far more useful to see a breakdown by model, and more useful still to see what the issues were that resulted in the scores.
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This report isn't statistics, It just the views or whims of a few owners. Statistics are things like warranty or insurance claims, something that can be counted. While it's no surprise to see Toyota/Lexus at the top, I wouldn't read too much into the table lower down.
My observation of Toyota owners is that they think that whatever happens to their vehicles is normal.
Based on my experience with Toyota, it should not be in the middle, let alone top.
Only thing this survey shows is that lots of readers of CR, drives Toyota.
My question is, what is CR's definition of reliability? Reminds me of "lifetime" fluids. Without a specific definition, terms are meaningless.
Top level statistics, even with sufficient numbers, are highly misleading.
You have to drill down to a relevant scenario. For example, In CA we drive a lotta miles and rust is a non-issue. I hear tell my cousins in Buffalo have a different experience...
There is truth in statistics, but you can also make them say whatever you want. I know this because my career centered around corporate forecasting. You have to drill down to accurately understand the information statistics hold. I had to answer to executive staff. Their questions, when staring you down with those cold steel eyes, can be pretty intimidating and require tons of research. I loved every minute of it, by the way.
Top level statistics, even with sufficient numbers, are highly misleading.
You have to drill down to a relevant scenario. For example, In CA we drive a lotta miles and rust is a non-issue. I hear tell my cousins in Buffalo have a different experience...
There is truth in statistics, but you can also make them say whatever you want. I know this because my career centered around corporate forecasting. You have to drill down to accurately understand the information statistics hold. I had to answer to executive staff. Their questions, when staring you down with those cold steel eyes, can be pretty intimidating and require tons of research. I loved every minute of it, by the way.
Ya what's that about?
My 2002 wrangler has never been on a tow truck. Can't say the same for our FJ.
CR tends to be fairly accurate for most things. I sometimes question their judgement on cars, appliances and paint.
They’re definitely on the LG, Ninja/Shark, Toyota and Behr bandwagon.
They’re definitely on the LG, Ninja/Shark, Toyota and Behr bandwagon.
Wife’s 2018 VW Tiguan with 122k remains quite reliable. Dealer could not even find issues today after major service. I do expect bottom to drop out but hoping we make it to 150k - 200k before that happens.
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