Hello All,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I think I may have read every single thread on TGMO since 2012 in it's SM formulation and as it has progressed through SN, and the speculation that it is using trinuclear moly etc etc. very spirited debates on this board, which I have enjoyed reading. However where some people have called debates "academic" at the point where an oil goes below -20C and below is a fact of life where I live ( and love every minute of it). I live in Edmonton, AB. We are avid skiiers and winter hikers. To be quite honest, when everyone battens down the hatches at -20 and below, we get in the RAV4 and go. The RAV has a block heater, winter tires, -44C coolant and a wired-in 4AMP battery tender, to keep the battery at 100% even during cold temps. It has started in -32 with minor hesitation on TGMO 0W20 SN (when I forgot to plug in).
There have definitely been occasions where I have been out at -20C and below and the RAV has had to sit unplugged for 5-8 hours at a time while we hike. Now, while most people would think this is crazy, this past winter I got so hot, I did the hike with my jacket wide open. Born in the north I suppose.
Now to the obvious question I have come here to answer..without the use of a block heater, How much am I gaining by going to M1 EP vs TGMO 0W20? while these trips are interesting since many a time there is no reception so getting back to my vehicle is my life line, they still are only about 50-60% of my overall mileage. The rest are generally short trips in the city. 10KM (6 Miles) and under though in this case, its kept in a heated garage, so starting temp is pretty much moot. Where I am , I can get TGMO 0W20 for about 32 for a 5L jug, whereas M1 EP is 60 for a 4.4L jug. Which would you pick and why? is there much to be gained from M1 EP? Thanks for your thoughts!
Long time lurker, first time poster. I think I may have read every single thread on TGMO since 2012 in it's SM formulation and as it has progressed through SN, and the speculation that it is using trinuclear moly etc etc. very spirited debates on this board, which I have enjoyed reading. However where some people have called debates "academic" at the point where an oil goes below -20C and below is a fact of life where I live ( and love every minute of it). I live in Edmonton, AB. We are avid skiiers and winter hikers. To be quite honest, when everyone battens down the hatches at -20 and below, we get in the RAV4 and go. The RAV has a block heater, winter tires, -44C coolant and a wired-in 4AMP battery tender, to keep the battery at 100% even during cold temps. It has started in -32 with minor hesitation on TGMO 0W20 SN (when I forgot to plug in).
There have definitely been occasions where I have been out at -20C and below and the RAV has had to sit unplugged for 5-8 hours at a time while we hike. Now, while most people would think this is crazy, this past winter I got so hot, I did the hike with my jacket wide open. Born in the north I suppose.
Now to the obvious question I have come here to answer..without the use of a block heater, How much am I gaining by going to M1 EP vs TGMO 0W20? while these trips are interesting since many a time there is no reception so getting back to my vehicle is my life line, they still are only about 50-60% of my overall mileage. The rest are generally short trips in the city. 10KM (6 Miles) and under though in this case, its kept in a heated garage, so starting temp is pretty much moot. Where I am , I can get TGMO 0W20 for about 32 for a 5L jug, whereas M1 EP is 60 for a 4.4L jug. Which would you pick and why? is there much to be gained from M1 EP? Thanks for your thoughts!
