I have heard of cars on this page with 300,000 miles, but is there anyone out there with over 500,000 miles without an engine rebuild. If so, what oil have you used? Also, how much oil consumption do you have now. I have a 2001 Civic with 217K with no oil consumption or problems, running Mobil 1 5W30 with Mobil 1 filters. I need advice from those that are there.
Anyone out there with 500,000 miles or more?
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Wow! 217K miles in 4 1/2 years? Congrats! I don't own a vehicle personally nor does anyone in my family own one with that kind of mileage on it.
However I would think in order to do so you would need to be super picky about maintence. Using the right fluids, analysis once a year at least, keep the engine and it's systems clean and lubed etc...
I suppose if you ran a bypass filters everywhere with synthetic fluids throughout or even dino oil maybe you could make it or.....
Run on a clean alternative fuel such as LPG (propane)
You would also need to do stuff that the average joe wouldn't normally do. Such as the above mentioned,,,,AR
However I would think in order to do so you would need to be super picky about maintence. Using the right fluids, analysis once a year at least, keep the engine and it's systems clean and lubed etc...
I suppose if you ran a bypass filters everywhere with synthetic fluids throughout or even dino oil maybe you could make it or.....
Run on a clean alternative fuel such as LPG (propane)
You would also need to do stuff that the average joe wouldn't normally do. Such as the above mentioned,,,,AR
The engine should not be the weakest link for a civic, I think rust, transmission, suspensions would gave out much earlier than the engine. With the amount of miles you drive, you will reach 500k reliabily with not much problem.
Electrical is the problem, and has been for over 40-years. Keep that system religiously, and the rest just according to book.
I made 465k miles on an 86 1.6L Turbo Diesel. It ran well when I sold it. But my wife kept complaining about the smoke- the bores had become egged shaped. It was more soot due to lowered compression than buring oil. I could have and should have rebuilt the engine. It would be the perfect car for me right know. Simple, cheap, extreemly reliable( never stranded me), and above all frugal.
What vehicle?
A 1988 Toyota Corolla with a 1.6L 4-banger was in the neighborhood until a few years back. I remember seeing it's mileage at 530k miles but after the floor rusted out(you could see the road from the back seat), the frame went next and the frame collapsed around the front right axle overnight during the winter a few years back. Single owner car though. I definetly agree that with today's cars the engine can outlast the body, suspension, transmission(specifically auto's), supporting components, etc.
92 Accord with 500,000 plus miles on M-I, 83 240D covered 480,000 miles before I sold it, only used Delvac Super or Delo 400 on it, currently own a 69 replica Nissan Patrol with HINO engine which has covered 286000 miles and going strong as new, again on Delo 400 or Delvac Super.
Just keep up on the maintenance and all will be fine. Given your rapid mileage you should have no issues but remember anything can break at anytime on ANY car. It just happends to be that the likelyhood is a bit lower in a Honda. I am guessing these are highway miles mostly which a beyond gentle to any vehicle.
Why do you drive 50k miles per year?
Why do you drive 50k miles per year?
My old business partner and his wife had a Ford straight 6 van that had 750k on the original engine. They used dino oil on 3K changes. This was a highway vehicle used for delivering supplies. They sold it to a mechanic that rebuilt the engine (compression was pretty low by then) and for all I know may still be driving it. The only failure I remember was they lost the fiber timing gear which was a weak link on that engine anyway.
My old '89 VW Jetta with 250K+ miles on it has usually had a strict diet of Valvoline AC 20w-50 and never burned a drop of oil. The electrical system is crap though.
There is that school teacher out in L.I. who drove his Volvo 2,000,000+ miles and Volvo gave him a new 850 for free! He had all his service done at the dealer. His orig engine went over 600,000 miles without a rebuild.
http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=13119
I've also read of a VW Golf with over 500,000 miles on it that was purchased by VW and torn down to inspect the engine. Very little wear. I'm assuming it was maintained religiously.
I think with anal-retentive service your car can last as long as you want it to. Assuming you can keep those other cars from bashing into it that is.
There is that school teacher out in L.I. who drove his Volvo 2,000,000+ miles and Volvo gave him a new 850 for free! He had all his service done at the dealer. His orig engine went over 600,000 miles without a rebuild.
http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=13119
I've also read of a VW Golf with over 500,000 miles on it that was purchased by VW and torn down to inspect the engine. Very little wear. I'm assuming it was maintained religiously.
I think with anal-retentive service your car can last as long as you want it to. Assuming you can keep those other cars from bashing into it that is.
A family friend recently retired from a Ford plant in New Jersey. He had been with the company for over 30 years.
In the early 1980s, he recalls a 1967 Ford Fairlane which had been re-purchased by Ford from its owner.
The car was bought used from a lot in New Jersey by a salesman in 1973. It had approximately 30,000 miles when he bought it. He owned it until Ford re-purchased the car from him with 530,000 miles on the clock.
The engine and transmission were intact and the engine had never seen a single major service. The only things replaced on the car were the exhaust system, hoses, belts, brakes, fluids, tires, and batteries.
Our family friend watched as the engine and transmission were pulled and crated for shipment back to Detroit, while the rest of the car was junked. According to him, the dipstick came out with no color at all except for the clear amber of fresh oil.
Ford gave the salesman a brand new car and $6000 in cash.
To answer the questions that I am sure the membership has at this point, he did use only one brand of oil and one brand of gasoline:
Quakerstate (unknown weight)
Amoco "White" gasoline
[ September 30, 2005, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Vortec_4300 ]
In the early 1980s, he recalls a 1967 Ford Fairlane which had been re-purchased by Ford from its owner.
The car was bought used from a lot in New Jersey by a salesman in 1973. It had approximately 30,000 miles when he bought it. He owned it until Ford re-purchased the car from him with 530,000 miles on the clock.
The engine and transmission were intact and the engine had never seen a single major service. The only things replaced on the car were the exhaust system, hoses, belts, brakes, fluids, tires, and batteries.
Our family friend watched as the engine and transmission were pulled and crated for shipment back to Detroit, while the rest of the car was junked. According to him, the dipstick came out with no color at all except for the clear amber of fresh oil.
Ford gave the salesman a brand new car and $6000 in cash.
To answer the questions that I am sure the membership has at this point, he did use only one brand of oil and one brand of gasoline:
Quakerstate (unknown weight)
Amoco "White" gasoline
[ September 30, 2005, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Vortec_4300 ]
Tan Sedan - I agree and do the service requirements diligently. I would like to know how to "keep at" that electrical system though. Always been a mystery to me. Moving gremlins at the the speed of light.
That sucks
Workmate at olde joint had a ToyCor-rola with 750,000 miles. Looked like a ***. Ran OK. Engine never completely torn open. Oil changed 3-5K intervals and the guy drove like a BOOH.
My father's 94 nissan altima has 460k miles on it now, he uses it everyday to drive to his job about 60 miles away one way.I thought he is changing his oil every 12k and posted here in a post but I was wrong, he changes his oil every 5k. The car never been serviced except the nissan dealer and the dealer uses pennzoil conventional. Other maintanance is done according to owners manual(at least I guess it is what nissan dealer does). We are the first owner of the car and my father keeps all the maintenance from day one and it is 2 thick folders. He is waiting the car to die to buy a brand new altima or maxima for the last 5 years(the car 300k then) didnt happen yet, Oh and by the way, he drives like an old lady, I never seem him passing 3000 rpm or 65 mph.Probably the 400k of 460k is at 65mph with cruise control. The car never broke down on road, always started on the first try.
Cars I've had that made it past 500k:
92 Saturn with 600k+. Ran 10w30 Valvoline or Havoline first 100k, Castrol 20w50 last 500k. Transmission crapped out. Engine was still good.
73 Cougar with a 71 Cleveland thats been turned over four times since I've had it, so I'm guessing about 500k.
50 Ford Coupe with 437k on it now, engine rebuild last few springs.
96 Olds Cutlass with 533k.
My unbeatable beast is undoubtably my 68 Superbee. 850k miles.
92 Saturn with 600k+. Ran 10w30 Valvoline or Havoline first 100k, Castrol 20w50 last 500k. Transmission crapped out. Engine was still good.
73 Cougar with a 71 Cleveland thats been turned over four times since I've had it, so I'm guessing about 500k.
50 Ford Coupe with 437k on it now, engine rebuild last few springs.
96 Olds Cutlass with 533k.
My unbeatable beast is undoubtably my 68 Superbee. 850k miles.
Have a family member in North Bend,Oregon who has a Toyota P/U
(96 I think) with 530 K and original
clutch.Still not a oil burner.
Quick Lube for the oil changes.
Dino @ 3,000 miles.
He is self employed with a delivery service.
(96 I think) with 530 K and original
clutch.Still not a oil burner.
Quick Lube for the oil changes.
Dino @ 3,000 miles.
He is self employed with a delivery service.
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