Anyone here vape?

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Originally Posted By: Astro14
And if I'm lucky enough to meet you in person - I'll buy you a drink.

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wag123,

Order the Macallan 25 for the drink of a lifetime.
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It's still $$ up in smoke. Ridiculous indulgence that no one in their right mind would fall into. Since you ask, you shouldn't be surprised to hear what you don't want to hear.
 
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: Astro14
And if I'm lucky enough to meet you in person - I'll buy you a drink.

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wag123,

Order the Macallan 25 for the drink of a lifetime.
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done.

You know I'm good for it!

Cheers,
Astro
 
Originally Posted By: Yah-Tah-Hey
It's still $$ up in smoke. Ridiculous indulgence that no one in their right mind would fall into. Since you ask, you shouldn't be surprised to hear what you don't want to hear.


I used $500 in fuel going fishing over the weekend. Vaping is hardly the habit making my money go up in smoke.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
I used $500 in fuel going fishing over the weekend. Vaping is hardly the habit making my money go up in smoke.

I can't think of too many other ways where I would rather blow money than fishing. I don't do much fishing this time of year, it's just too hot in Texas. Next month I will get back after it.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
And if I'm lucky enough to meet you in person - I'll buy you a drink.

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Thanks Astro. If I'm ever in your neck of the woods I might take you up on the offer
 
Originally Posted by Astro14
Originally Posted by wag123
Originally Posted by Astro14
Not certain what your point is.

My life is about managing risk.

Your life is about overcoming addiction.

You�re not really managing risk by vaping, you�re trying to overcome that addiction.

But I AM managing risk by vaping. That is my point. I thought that you got that.
When comparing the health risks associated with vaping verses smoking cigarettes, vaping carries a FAR lower health risk than smoking, this is an undisputed fact. I do agree that vaping is not a risk-free activity, but few things in life are, as you pointed out.
My life is NOT about overcoming addiction, I'm STILL addicted.


OK. fair enough. I agree with everything you've said there.

And if I'm lucky enough to meet you in person - I'll buy you a drink.

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Wag - with the latest news on vaping, I thought of this thread.

How are you doing?

What do you think of the recent (albeit sensationalist news) reported baling deaths?

I'm still good for that drink, by the way...

Cheers,
Astro
 
Originally Posted by Astro14
Originally Posted by Astro14
Originally Posted by wag123
Originally Posted by Astro14
Not certain what your point is.

My life is about managing risk.

Your life is about overcoming addiction.

You�re not really managing risk by vaping, you�re trying to overcome that addiction.

But I AM managing risk by vaping. That is my point. I thought that you got that.
When comparing the health risks associated with vaping verses smoking cigarettes, vaping carries a FAR lower health risk than smoking, this is an undisputed fact. I do agree that vaping is not a risk-free activity, but few things in life are, as you pointed out.
My life is NOT about overcoming addiction, I'm STILL addicted.


OK. fair enough. I agree with everything you've said there.

And if I'm lucky enough to meet you in person - I'll buy you a drink.

cheers3.gif



Wag - with the latest news on vaping, I thought of this thread.

How are you doing?

What do you think of the recent (albeit sensationalist news) reported baling deaths?

I'm still good for that drink, by the way...

Cheers,
Astro


I have a neighbor who is a Doctor, and they were telling me of the alarming increase in cases they are seeing among (mostly young) people that Vape. Numerous cases of otherwise healthy young people with serious lung issues, which in some cases require life support. And some who didn't survive.
 
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Originally Posted by Astro14

Wag - with the latest news on vaping, I thought of this thread.

How are you doing?

What do you think of the recent (albeit sensationalist news) reported baling deaths?

I'm still good for that drink, by the way...

Cheers,
Astro


I have a neighbor who is a Doctor, and they were telling me of the alarming increase in cases they are seeing among (mostly young) people that Vape. Numerous cases of otherwise healthy young people with serious lung issues, which in some cases require life support. And some who didn't survive.
I've been vaping for 4.5 years and I'm doing perfectly good. I feel WAY better than I did when I was smoking.
There is something else going on here. For one thing, there is some kind of heavy push going on behind the scenes to keep these news stories coming day after day. In the forums they are talking about how they think big tobacco is behind all of the negative publicity, their business has been negatively impacted in a very big way by the vaping phenomenon, and if they can manage to get it outlawed, they stand to gain-back millions of smokers as customers. If you don't think that big tobacco is capable-of doing this, think again!
Another thing, it is beginning to come out that in addition to nicotine vape products, the affected individuals were vaping something else, like what the people think is THC vape oil. The thing about it is that the people are buying these THC vape oil products on the street, and who knows what chemicals are in some of these clandestine THC vape products. The rumor is that some of them even contain the same dangerous chemicals that are used to make Spice/K2. There is also a problem with counterfeit THC vape oil products being sold, even in the legal states, and there are also counterfeit nicotine vape products being sold on the street. Underage individuals are much more likely to be purchasing vape products on the street, and who knows where they came from or what it is that they are vaping.
 
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I have been vaping since 2007 and in that time I have rode my hybrid-tired mountain bike at charity rides of 60-80 miles, maintaining an 18-19 mph average. On shorter rides of 30-40 miles, I can pull out a 22mph average.

The big misconception is that all vaping is the same. It isn't. You need to know what you are vaping and that the ingredients have been verified.

Is it "safe"? Wouldn't say that. Is it as bad as smoking? Not by a long shot. Been there and done that, and that was bad enough that I couldn't make a flight of stairs without feeling like I was going to have to lay down for a minute.

I'm well aware that there are people in the world who have a hate for vaping and the people who do it, but there's pretty much no way in the world to avoid people hating you for some odd reason or another, so I never worry about it. Can't make everyone happy.
 
wag - You brought up what I suspected - counterfeit/uncontrolled vaping fluid bought on the street. Underage kids are particularly vulnerable...

For the record, big tobacco is heavily invested in vaping and is spending big $$ on marketing and product as well as researching how to make vaping safer. Altria just invested $12 Billion in Juul, for example. Reynolds has its Vuse line, and a team of dozens of researchers working on making it safer.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Please quit before your lungs are trashed and need an oxygen tank due to this poison.

Easy for you to say and easier said than done! Nicotine is the most addictive chemical there is... more addictive than opium, cocaine, meth, or alcohol. I have known people that have been able to kick the other chemical addictions but couldn't quit smoking.
 
Originally Posted by Astro14
wag - You brought up what I suspected - counterfeit/uncontrolled vaping fluid bought on the street. Underage kids are particularly vulnerable...
Most of the affected individuals are unwilling to fess-up that they were vaping something that they bought from clandestine/street sources. They don't want their parents to know.
 
Nicotine is addictive, but not a carcinogen. There are millions of us vapers out there that buy quality vape "juice" from certified laboratories. The thing with Juul's, they use nicotine salts, a super-duper highly concentrated form of nicotine. Ya'll know the adage....everything in moderation. Those Juul's have something like 60 mg/l of nicotine or even higher. Was not aware of big tobacco involved with Fuse or Juul. Makes sense now why those particular products are so high in nicotine. The stronger they make it, the more tobacco they can use to make this product. Most quality vape juice can be between 4-18 mg/l of nicotine. The purchaser can get the right amount of dosage they prefer. What they DON'T tell you in these news stories is the type of vaporizer that were being used. Almost all of them were what is known as competition vapes and mouth to lung hits. Competition vapes uses those big ones that I'm sure some of ya'll have seen and they actually do have competitions. This is how it works....you fully exhale your lungs, then breath in through your vape machine and hold as much as you can, then you exhale horizontally. They one whose vape cloud travels the furthest, wins. Just think about that for a minute. Now the other type of vaporizers out there that I'm sure most of us older former smokers use are called mouth to throat. It basically gives you a slight throat hit, like a cigarette would do, then you exhale. You really don't inhale that vape deep in your lungs. the throat hit is actually the nicotine. Some need a stronger amount, say around 10 to 16 mg/l, some lighter. I use 12 mg/l. I have been vaping for over 10 years and can out run my 15 year old, run a mile under 10 minutes and I'm 56. I smoked for 30 years. One other thing about these medical issues, as others pointed out above, most of these liquids were concocted at home and most used liquid THC. Just why do you think THC was used? This is one of those situations where a few dumb arsches are going to ruin it for the rest of us and it will become heavily regulated. When that happens, it's going to get worse because more and more vapers will be forced to create their own at home recipes and make their own juices.
 
No I don't. Back in my teenage years one day I smoked 6 cigarettes. I got buzzed and so sick that a threw up.

That was enough.

It's going take years for the data to prove the effects Vaping has on people and for the lawyers to show up to cash in.
 
Originally Posted by Pop_Rivit
Vaping is nothing more than a stupid habit, and using it to quit smoking is trading one stupid habit for another. If you want to quit smoking, quit it altogether. Don't simply use an adult pacifier.


This. I think it's stupid and looks very [censored].
However...due to vapers, the 18650 and 18350 battery market accelerated, so I have better fuel for my WML's and hand-helds, as a result, so...thanks?
 
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Originally Posted by wag123
Another thing, it is beginning to come out that in addition to nicotine vape products, the affected individuals were vaping something else, like what the people think is THC vape oil. The thing about it is that the people are buying these THC vape oil products on the street, and who knows what chemicals are in some of these clandestine THC vape products. The rumor is that some of them even contain the same dangerous chemicals that are used to make Spice/K2. There is also a problem with counterfeit THC vape oil products being sold, even in the legal states, and there are also counterfeit nicotine vape products being sold on the street. Underage individuals are much more likely to be purchasing vape products on the street, and who knows where they came from or what it is that they are vaping.


Yea, big issue now is the possibility of brake fluid and other look-alike fluids being added in cartridges because of unknown products sold by street dealers.

Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Please quit before your lungs are trashed and need an oxygen tank due to this poison.


I can out-hike and out-run many people, including high 12,000 ft+ altitudes and I still smoke. Not saying that it doesn't affect my lungs but it's better than being overweight...not like the chances of being critically injured from a car crash is any better anyways.
 
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