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Got a notification on the GasBuddy app today that my CR-V has a new recall, for the driver and passenger front airbags. I ran my VIN on the NHTSA website and sure enough, my car is included in the campaign.

I've already done an airbag recall once on this car in the 2 years I've had it, and going off of service records the previous owner did it twice...

...meaning this will be the FOURTH time my car has been recalled for the airbags. WHAT??

Is this just my typical dumb luck or am I not alone here?
 
Normal, Honda specifically has been known to install the same design airbags that were recalled because Takata didn't have the new design and then when they finally did correct the fundamental problem, there is a part shortage.

Since this airbag defect comes into play once the part has aged and been exposed to humidity, manufacturers did this to buy themselves time.
 
HONDA = Had One, Not Driving Another

Whelp... looks like I'll be rolling into my local dealer Saturday morning
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Hmm, we are inheriting an '03 but my MIL swore the recall was already done. Joy. Well, as long as it's free then I guess I shouldn't care. Annoying but that's life. Could be worse, like something that they don't care of.

Does make me wonder about my other vehicles though!
 
Originally Posted by cwilliamsws6
HONDA = Had One, Not Driving Another

Heh, I like it.

My wife had an '01 Civic and I didn't shed one tear when it went away. She misses it occasionally but not that much. I suspect I hate on it too much, back then it was an economy car, I probably expected too much of it.
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
The airbag problem is not going to get resolved until they make the car manufacturer liable.


Yup, it makes my blood boil seeing how the hammer was dropped over VW emission problem, although no lives were ever lost, but many tried hard to extrapolate how many people they killed indirectly.

Here we have a literal time bomb in front of millions of drivers and no harsh penalties were ever given. Takata went through bankruptcy to protect themselves, but that's about it. And manufacturers are allowed to sell cars to this day with defective airbags, as long as they have an active recall campaign.
 
Don't worry. This is not nearly as big a problem as the media would have you believe. Defective Takata airbags have been linked to only 24 deaths worldwide (17 in the United States) out of the 37 million vehicles equipped with them and millions of air bag deployments over the last 20 years. Look at the odds, they are extremely low, on the order of getting killed in a plane crash or wining the lottery. .
 
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Why are some manufacturers still having this issue? It's not like weak paint. This is life/death.


As was previously stated, the initial run of recalls were just installed newer models of the same defective airbag. The permanent fix inflators are slowly coming online. Also Takata did not do their part and keep proper records of what manufacturers were supplied possible defective components.

Trust me, as much as it sucks for owners, dealing with this on the dealer end sucks just as much. We have to keep them in stock, keep and track the old ones. Right now I have maybe 50 inflators within arms reach that I am babysitting until the core people come to take them.
 
Originally Posted by wag123
Don't worry. This is not nearly as big a problem as the media would have you believe. Defective Takata airbags have been linked to only 24 deaths worldwide (17 in the United States) out of the 37 million vehicles equipped with them and millions of air bag deployments over the last 20 years. Look at the odds, they are extremely low, on the order of getting killed in a plane crash or wining the lottery. .

Yeah I know. I realize when I get frustrated with it that it's a knee jerk reaction. But still. I've got a 20 year old inflator in front of me. It gives me pause--even though the odds are way better of it doing precisely what it was designed for than not.
 
Kind of makes you wonder if airbags were a good idea to begin with. I don't think they were, back in the 1970s the German ADAC also questioned the veracity of using them.
Fact is that essentially you have a dangerous explosive charge sitting in front of your face at all times as you drive. I think that is stupid and illogical.
 
I dunno. The alternative would be to wear a neck brace and maybe 5 point harnesses. And perhaps more. The problem is, controlling deceleration. If you are strapped rigidly down (arms legs etc) I think it was like 5G's that a body could withstand; above the retinas can detach. Forget now the limits (there was a guy back. Right now the seatbelt is supposed to stretch a bit, and of course an airbag, while strongly inflated deflates pretty quick.

Crumple zones might have come a long ways since airbags go popular. Those control decel also.
 
Originally Posted by supton
I dunno. The alternative would be to wear a neck brace and maybe 5 point harnesses. And perhaps more. The problem is, controlling deceleration. If you are strapped rigidly down (arms legs etc) I think it was like 5G's that a body could withstand; above the retinas can detach. Forget now the limits (there was a guy back. Right now the seatbelt is supposed to stretch a bit, and of course an airbag, while strongly inflated deflates pretty quick.

Crumple zones might have come a long ways since airbags go popular. Those control decel also.


I wouldn't mind wearing my Bell M.8 and Simspon Hyrbid whenever I drove. The constant helmet hair would be annoying though.
 
Statically nothing will happen since you need a combination of factors including your air bag is in fact defective.

We never did my wife's Subaru till last 5k of ownership only because it was in for a recall that fixed leaking fuel lines.
 
Yeah I know the chances of anything happening are slim to none, but I've never been known for having the best of luck so I may as well go ahead and just get it done and over with since it won't cost me anything.

Plus, the dealer I go to does a complimentary interior detail and exterior wash with every service, may as well take advantage of that too lol.
 
Originally Posted by madRiver
Statically nothing will happen since you need a combination of factors including your air bag is in fact defective.

We never did my wife's Subaru till last 5k of ownership only because it was in for a recall that fixed leaking fuel lines.


It isn't a zero sum game. The air bag can be fine now and become defective later due to age, humidity, etc.

I have seen reports of 2 people in this state that got into minor fender benders and ended up deceased because the shrapnel from the air bag inflator, inflators which were recalled but not yet done.

I get it it, it's not likely, but it is more likely in my geographical location and climate. If i don't have recall done, and I'm in an accident with a defective inflator, my chances of severe injury and even death are higher than if i get recall done and have same accident.

I'm not a successful gambler usually, and those odds seem dumb to bet on by willfully delaying having the recall work done. I'll do any and all airbag recall that come out.
 
Hate to say it.... But shrapnel aimed at your jugular veins and arteries is not a good circumstance by any measure.

So you are very, very right.
 
Originally Posted by wag123
Don't worry. This is not nearly as big a problem as the media would have you believe. Defective Takata airbags have been linked to only 24 deaths worldwide (17 in the United States) out of the 37 million vehicles equipped with them and millions of air bag deployments over the last 20 years. Look at the odds, they are extremely low, on the order of getting killed in a plane crash or wining the lottery. .


Sure, if you want to look at this from the best possible perspective.

In reality you have to take the number of Takata equipped vehicles that were actually involved in an accident that deployed the airbags, not the total vehicles equipped. And why take only deaths into account? What about injuries caused by these things?
 
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