Amsoil Signature okay for 15k hard use?

[Mach1Owner]

As my sig says I have a 2.5 Altima. I drive about 11-12k a year. I see that AMSoil Signature says that under hard use it will last 15k, and its filter (or Fram Ultra) last 15k.

Would it be a good idea for me to use 1 change of AMS Sig and either their or FRAM's 15k filter to do 1 change a year?

I'd plan to do the change every year before my yearly state inspection.

 

[JHZR2]

I ran SSO in the past in my saab for a long interval. I run 2 years on the oil and filter, per the OLM and engine design, without issue.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1523288

 

[buster]

Yeah it should handle that but confirm with a UOA.

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: buster
Yeah it should handle that but confirm with a UOA.


Yup.

 

[Danno]

How does your planned OCI match up to your warrnty OCI requirements?

 

[Johnny248]

I ran SS 5w20 in an 06 5.7l Ram which was driven by a female mostly around town driving for a little over 26k with a EAO filter and had a uoa done on it. Unfortuantly the PDF was lost on my old laptop but the TBN was at about 2.3 if I can remember correctly. There was nothing too troubling with the uoa. That was far longer than I have ever run an OCI, but it did give me some peace of mind about that oil. I don't *think* the 15k in tour situation would be an issue but it wouldnt be a bad idea to get an idea of what's going on say around 10k before you push it.

I currently have been running the SSO in one of my vehicles at around 10k intervals and the Blackstone report had very good results still. My opinions is that the SS line is one of the better oils on the market if you don't mind the additional cost.

 

[Mach1Owner]

Manual says every 5k miles. but if an engine is to fail that much that the oil is inspected, there is a major issue going on, that would have failed either way.

 

[walk23]

having a new vehicle as you have I'd want to have a couple of shorter OCI's in the books before going longer change intervals. Interested in how others would approach this while a car is breaking in.

 

[lubedude13]

I use Amsoil Signature and run 10k.....BUT I want to maintain factory warranty.....if that is important do what Nissan states.

My UOA still showed enough life to go at least 12500 miles or more and we did a good bit short trip driving.

Got a friend with an 08 Honda and he uses amsoil xl at 12k intervals and still going

 

[Danno]

Originally Posted By: Mach1Owner
Manual says every 5k miles. but if an engine is to fail that much that the oil is inspected, there is a major issue going on, that would have failed either way.


As the saying goes in my neck of the woods "your money makes it your call"

 

[Mach1Owner]

I plan to dump the original fill @ 2500, then do a change @ 5000. I get 2 free changes with the car. After that I plan to start moving to the longer fill. After 5,000 miles I expect the engine should be broken in by then.

Nissan in 2013 called for a 7500m change, then in 2014 revised to a 5000m change for the same vehicles.

 

[simple_gifts]

Do what the mfg specifies under warranty.

Quote:

but if an engine is to fail that much that the oil is inspected, there is a major issue going on, that would have failed either way.


True, but it is a case of doing what the mfg requested and it failed, or not doing it and it failed; the former being less refutable when you put in your warranty claim.

"you maintained the car in good faith" is a 5K OCI.

That being said, i have 13.2K miles on my ALM 5W-20 out of warranty B2300

 

[Bandito440]

I agree with what's been shared here. 12k should be okay after a few shorter changes. If you have an issue down the road, not maintaining it as required in the manual will give Nissan or a dealership ammo to deny a claim. It's your money though. Weigh the risk as you see fit.

 

[StevieBoy]

Originally Posted By: Mach1Owner
I plan to dump the original fill @ 2500, then do a change @ 5000. I get 2 free changes with the car. After that I plan to start moving to the longer fill. After 5,000 miles I expect the engine should be broken in by then.


I think this is a very reasonable plan. I would do it without any worry.

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: Mach1Owner
As my sig says I have a 2.5 Altima. I drive about 11-12k a year. I see that AMSoil Signature says that under hard use it will last 15k, and its filter (or Fram Ultra) last 15k.

Would it be a good idea for me to use 1 change of AMS Sig and either their or FRAM's 15k filter to do 1 change a year?

I'd plan to do the change every year before my yearly state inspection.


If I wanted to do that I would do a UOA half way through.

I would also use an Amsoil filter so the Amsoil warranty would apply.

 

[gathermewool]

I've never experienced an oil-related failure and the only person I know who has seized the motor in her high-rev'ing Civic SI. The cause, one oil change (maybe; she couldn't remember having the oil changed ever, but thought she might have maybe once) in >40k miles.

If an engine fails while in the warranty period, and while extending out to appropriate OCI's, it's either the motor's Fault or the oil level wasn't being maintain (I.e., not the fault of the oil.)

I don't believe in lowering my OCI based on the lowest common denominator for fear of warranty denial. However, I would only expect to have both legs to stand on in the event of an oil-related engine failure if I had UOA to prove that my oil and interval choice was not to blame. I'd for sure have the dealer draw off multiple samples of the oil in the sump at time of failure and document doing so, to prove the oil was up to snuff.

In the end, if you have the time to do so, the easiest and cheapest choice is to use the cheapest oil meeting your OEM-required spec, and change it at the interval called out in the manual.

All of the above is just my opinion.

 

[Flareside302]

read....


www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx

 

[fdcg27]

With a car under warranty, no.
Change the oil as Nissan recommends and use an API licensed oil as Nissan also recommends.
999 times out of a thousand, the powertrain warranty has zero value since nothing goes wrong.
Now, in the event of outright engine failure, Nissan might have a hard time denying a warranty claim if a quality oil like SSO were used on reasonable OCIs.
But what if your problem involves absurly high oil consumption on a young engine?
Nissan can say that a quart every tank of gas is normal, but if the other 999 four cylinder Altimas go through a typical OCI with no consumption then they would have a hard time sustaining that claim while keeping a straight face.
If you venture off the reservation and use an oil not licensed by API for drain intervals not recommended by Nissan, you then leave Nissan an out.
They can always say that since you used an oil without the recommended certification for drain intervals beyond what Nissan recommended then of course you have oil consumption.
In short, if you value your warranty, use the recommended oil on the recommended drain interval.
When will Nissan join the real car companies and equip their vehicles with an IOLM?

 

[Pablo]

Just for the record:

Originally Posted By: Amsoil
Will extending oil change intervals void new vehicle warranties?
Answer: No. Extending oil change intervals will not void new vehicle warranties. To affect the vehicle warranty, it must be determined that the lubricant was directly responsible for the failure; if the oil didn’t cause the problem, the warranty cannot be voided, regardless of brand or length of time in use.

 

[steve20]

^^^ Pablo read the statement you posted---it says absolutely nothing of value


I would stay with the 5K OCI using the green bottle or the yellow bottle. Lots of stuff happens furthur on down the road like, Oh I don't know, maybe the engine eating its catalytic converter, maybe the hardening wasn't done right on the cams, maybe not enough drain holes in the piston land, and only shows up after 40K and they decide to extend the warranty to folks who have proved they serviced vehicle accordingly. Where will you be with an extended OCI in this situation?