E39 M5.
Amazingly good looking, amazing performance, amazingly low used car price. All around amazing car.
Amazingly good looking, amazing performance, amazingly low used car price. All around amazing car.
A car enthusiasts sort of super car
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Originally Posted By: salv
If you want a powerful, classic, iconic vehicle, that affords you a sense of fraternity, you will be better suited buying good old American muscle. There is far more comradery amongst the owners of classic American cars.
The "supercar" world is one of individualistic snobbery, exemplified by the notion of "mine is better than yours...and I deserve it."
Not sure if it counts, but BMW owners are in general, pretty good in that respect. They organize track days, trips, cruises....etc.
The M5 board has PILES of these things going on all the time. As I said, I'm not sure it counts, because I don't think an M3/M5/M6 is a "supercar".
My boss has a 2011 DB9, and while performance is actually pretty comparable to the M5, they are definitely in a different league in terms of the response/recognition when out in public. It is a truly stunning creature.
If you want a powerful, classic, iconic vehicle, that affords you a sense of fraternity, you will be better suited buying good old American muscle. There is far more comradery amongst the owners of classic American cars.
The "supercar" world is one of individualistic snobbery, exemplified by the notion of "mine is better than yours...and I deserve it."
Not sure if it counts, but BMW owners are in general, pretty good in that respect. They organize track days, trips, cruises....etc.
The M5 board has PILES of these things going on all the time. As I said, I'm not sure it counts, because I don't think an M3/M5/M6 is a "supercar".
My boss has a 2011 DB9, and while performance is actually pretty comparable to the M5, they are definitely in a different league in terms of the response/recognition when out in public. It is a truly stunning creature.
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
The boss mustang is a nice piece
That's a gross understatement, LMAO! BOSS 429 is my kryptonite
The boss mustang is a nice piece
That's a gross understatement, LMAO! BOSS 429 is my kryptonite
If you don't want to spend a fortune and wait your whole life just buy an SL Mercedes. Any vintage is good, it will do everything you want of it and they have a very active following.
R129's are a smoking buy right now, R107's are starting to become collectable.
You can pick up a mid 90's SL600 for $20k or less and it will do anything an Aston Martin of similar vintage will do, and its a better built and engineered car.
If you want to spend a fortune than get an SL65 AMG and have Brabus go over it, that's a great way to burn $400k+. But nothing short of a Veyron is going to pull on you over 100.
Lots of people think they want sports cars, but they really want GT cars. True sports cars are uncomfortable and in the real world not very usable. But a good GT car like an SL, 911, or Aston Martin is something you can drive everyday, in rainy weather, take your wife/girlfriend out etc. Much more usable.
Bentley also makes a nice drop top which I see running around and looks like a fantastic driver.
R129's are a smoking buy right now, R107's are starting to become collectable.
You can pick up a mid 90's SL600 for $20k or less and it will do anything an Aston Martin of similar vintage will do, and its a better built and engineered car.
If you want to spend a fortune than get an SL65 AMG and have Brabus go over it, that's a great way to burn $400k+. But nothing short of a Veyron is going to pull on you over 100.
Lots of people think they want sports cars, but they really want GT cars. True sports cars are uncomfortable and in the real world not very usable. But a good GT car like an SL, 911, or Aston Martin is something you can drive everyday, in rainy weather, take your wife/girlfriend out etc. Much more usable.
Bentley also makes a nice drop top which I see running around and looks like a fantastic driver.
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What does it matter if the purchase price of SL600 is $20K or $120K? It will cost him the same to keep it running. Come to think of it, if he were to pay $120K for SL600, he will not be paying for expensive maintenance for a while 
I think you know what I am getting at. The purchase prices of used super cars are pretty much irrelevant. It is the ongoing upkeep that needs to be factored in.
Does NSX win on that count?
I think you know what I am getting at. The purchase prices of used super cars are pretty much irrelevant. It is the ongoing upkeep that needs to be factored in.
Does NSX win on that count?
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
If you don't want to spend a fortune and wait your whole life just buy an SL Mercedes. Any vintage is good, it will do everything you want of it and they have a very active following.
R129's are a smoking buy right now, R107's are starting to become collectable.
You can pick up a mid 90's SL600 for $20k or less and it will do anything an Aston Martin of similar vintage will do, and its a better built and engineered car.
If you want to spend a fortune than get an SL65 AMG and have Brabus go over it, that's a great way to burn $400k+. But nothing short of a Veyron is going to pull on you over 100.
Lots of people think they want sports cars, but they really want GT cars. True sports cars are uncomfortable and in the real world not very usable. But a good GT car like an SL, 911, or Aston Martin is something you can drive everyday, in rainy weather, take your wife/girlfriend out etc. Much more usable.
Bentley also makes a nice drop top which I see running around and looks like a fantastic driver.
+1. Real Super Cars are ungodly expensive to keep.
If you don't want to spend a fortune and wait your whole life just buy an SL Mercedes. Any vintage is good, it will do everything you want of it and they have a very active following.
R129's are a smoking buy right now, R107's are starting to become collectable.
You can pick up a mid 90's SL600 for $20k or less and it will do anything an Aston Martin of similar vintage will do, and its a better built and engineered car.
If you want to spend a fortune than get an SL65 AMG and have Brabus go over it, that's a great way to burn $400k+. But nothing short of a Veyron is going to pull on you over 100.
Lots of people think they want sports cars, but they really want GT cars. True sports cars are uncomfortable and in the real world not very usable. But a good GT car like an SL, 911, or Aston Martin is something you can drive everyday, in rainy weather, take your wife/girlfriend out etc. Much more usable.
Bentley also makes a nice drop top which I see running around and looks like a fantastic driver.
+1. Real Super Cars are ungodly expensive to keep.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
What does it matter if the purchase price of SL600 is $20K or $120K? It will cost him the same to keep it running. Come to think of it, if he were to pay $120K for SL600, he will not be paying for expensive maintenance for a while
I think you know what I am getting at. The purchase prices of used super cars are pretty much irrelevant. It is the ongoing upkeep that needs to be factored in.
Does NSX win on that count?
SL's are very reasonable to maintain. How much time do you have wrenching on old Mercedes? I have quite a bit.
I do agree with the sentiments on upkeep though. One must remember when buying older pricey cars that you are still keeping a complex expensive machine on the road. So as where a $1k part would be WOW for a Civic, in an older exotic its not really a big deal.
Budget about $3k-$5k a year for upkeep.
What does it matter if the purchase price of SL600 is $20K or $120K? It will cost him the same to keep it running. Come to think of it, if he were to pay $120K for SL600, he will not be paying for expensive maintenance for a while
I think you know what I am getting at. The purchase prices of used super cars are pretty much irrelevant. It is the ongoing upkeep that needs to be factored in.
Does NSX win on that count?
SL's are very reasonable to maintain. How much time do you have wrenching on old Mercedes? I have quite a bit.
I do agree with the sentiments on upkeep though. One must remember when buying older pricey cars that you are still keeping a complex expensive machine on the road. So as where a $1k part would be WOW for a Civic, in an older exotic its not really a big deal.
Budget about $3k-$5k a year for upkeep.
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I have owned Mercs. They all aren't as fabulous as stated above. But they are well built, and can age really nicely.
IMO if you're not willing to DIY almost everything they are a bad choice if really older. The risk is high.
The high performance models eat pieces and consumables like candy. And they can be difficult to diagnose as they are quite complex. But almost anything with higher performance exhibits the same with age, with a few exceptions.
IMO if you're not willing to DIY almost everything they are a bad choice if really older. The risk is high.
The high performance models eat pieces and consumables like candy. And they can be difficult to diagnose as they are quite complex. But almost anything with higher performance exhibits the same with age, with a few exceptions.
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
But the only time I ever didn't enjoy it was trying to coax it through Raton Pass on the way to Denver.
You just made me think of my favorite Townes Van Zant song, "Snowin' On Raton", and my fave cover of it by Robert Earl Keen. Thanks!
But the only time I ever didn't enjoy it was trying to coax it through Raton Pass on the way to Denver.
You just made me think of my favorite Townes Van Zant song, "Snowin' On Raton", and my fave cover of it by Robert Earl Keen. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By: 79sunrunner
...the sort of car that if you see another one like it, you will wave, and they will wave back.
Do Jeep Wrangler driver still wave?
A million years ago, I had a Jeep CJ7. It took awhile to get used to being waved at by every other CJ/Wrangler driver on the road. Its been awhile, so I don't know if they still do that.
Yup we still wave, even the "soccer mom" model JKU's.
Originally Posted By: 79sunrunner
...the sort of car that if you see another one like it, you will wave, and they will wave back.
Do Jeep Wrangler driver still wave?
A million years ago, I had a Jeep CJ7. It took awhile to get used to being waved at by every other CJ/Wrangler driver on the road. Its been awhile, so I don't know if they still do that.
Yup we still wave, even the "soccer mom" model JKU's.
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