Originally Posted By: MalfunctionProne
Don't feed the troll.
You, sir, are correct. Thanks for the reminder.
Don't feed the troll.
You, sir, are correct. Thanks for the reminder.
0W oil is a waste
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Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
Originally Posted By: GM4LIFE
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: GM4LIFE
Is Mobil 1 0W30 better than the 5W30 I am running now? I mean besides being thinner at cold startups. Does it protect better and have a better formula? Does anyone know for sure?
Also, curious as to why Pennzoil Ultra Platinum isn't available in a 0W30 grade.
Actually M1 0-30 is not thinner at start than M1 5-30. 0 wt oils are not thinner, they are formulated to flow faster at start.
Duly noted. Thank you. Spec sheet to spec sheet, is the 0W30 Mobil 1 a better performing oil over the 5W30 I am running now?
Both oils are very good as all M1 oils are. With that said, M1 5-30 is one of the better 5-30 oils. Not sure about spec sheets, but if my engine called for a 30 wt then I would give 0-30 a shot.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: GM4LIFE
Is Mobil 1 0W30 better than the 5W30 I am running now? I mean besides being thinner at cold startups. Does it protect better and have a better formula? Does anyone know for sure?
Also, curious as to why Pennzoil Ultra Platinum isn't available in a 0W30 grade.
Actually M1 0-30 is not thinner at start than M1 5-30. 0 wt oils are not thinner, they are formulated to flow faster at start.
Duly noted. Thank you. Spec sheet to spec sheet, is the 0W30 Mobil 1 a better performing oil over the 5W30 I am running now?
Both oils are very good as all M1 oils are. With that said, M1 5-30 is one of the better 5-30 oils. Not sure about spec sheets, but if my engine called for a 30 wt then I would give 0-30 a shot.
K
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
If you're in N. Alberta, maybe you're in Fort Mac, and maybe you work with the tar sands. Sour crude, but crude nonetheless.
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
If you're in N. Alberta, maybe you're in Fort Mac, and maybe you work with the tar sands. Sour crude, but crude nonetheless.
Originally Posted By: thunderfog
K
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
If you're in N. Alberta, maybe you're in Fort Mac, and maybe you work with the tar sands. Sour crude, but crude nonetheless.
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene, naphtha and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
K
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
If you're in N. Alberta, maybe you're in Fort Mac, and maybe you work with the tar sands. Sour crude, but crude nonetheless.
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene, naphtha and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
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Originally Posted By: aa1986
I just googled "lubricants" and based on the results, it is quite possible that you do.
What goodies or dirt did it have on me?
I just googled "lubricants" and based on the results, it is quite possible that you do.
What goodies or dirt did it have on me?
I pull trains with 100 cars of crude, therefore I'm in the lubrication industry.
Its -20C outside where I am, and +20C where you live.
Its -20F outside where I am, and +20F where you live.
Wanna switch places? Anybody?
Its -20C outside where I am, and +20C where you live.
Its -20F outside where I am, and +20F where you live.
Wanna switch places? Anybody?
Originally Posted By: used_0il
I pull trains with 100 cars of crude, therefore I'm in the lubrication industry.
Its -20C outside where I am, and +20C where you live.
Its -20F outside where I am, and +20F where you live.
Wanna switch places? Anybody?
I'll trade with ya provided you were not part of the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster. I don't want to inherit your screw-up.
I pull trains with 100 cars of crude, therefore I'm in the lubrication industry.
Its -20C outside where I am, and +20C where you live.
Its -20F outside where I am, and +20F where you live.
Wanna switch places? Anybody?
I'll trade with ya provided you were not part of the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster. I don't want to inherit your screw-up.
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
We always called Fort McMurray Fort Mac for short. I lived and worked in the Great White North and am very familiar with Canadian geography. And a couple people I met in that industry referred to the oil in the sand up there as tar sands. I can only go by what I was told.
And all I know is that the oil that comes from there is expensive to extract through massive excavation and requires a lot of refining. My knowledge ends there.
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
We always called Fort McMurray Fort Mac for short. I lived and worked in the Great White North and am very familiar with Canadian geography. And a couple people I met in that industry referred to the oil in the sand up there as tar sands. I can only go by what I was told.
And all I know is that the oil that comes from there is expensive to extract through massive excavation and requires a lot of refining. My knowledge ends there.
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Originally Posted By: thunderfog
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
We always called Fort McMurray Fort Mac for short. I lived and worked in the Great White North and am very familiar with Canadian geography. And a couple people I met in that industry referred to the oil in the sand up there as tar sands. I can only go by what I was told.
And all I know is that the oil that comes from there is expensive to extract through massive excavation and requires a lot of refining. My knowledge ends there.
It's all good.
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Never heard of Fort Mac. Now, I have heard of Fort McMurray.
Tar sands? Never heard of it. I have heard of oil sands. The oil in the oil sands contains bitumen in which one of the cuts is asphaltenes which is used to make road and roof "tarring"materials, but I don't know of an hydrocarbon deposit in sand that has strictly "tar." Other products from bitumen are gas oil, diesel, jet fuel/kerosene and some light ends C1 - C3.
Yes, the bitumen is sour, but that is why we have hydro treating processing to deal with that. The produced sulfur then goes to the fertilizer and pharmaceutical industry.
We always called Fort McMurray Fort Mac for short. I lived and worked in the Great White North and am very familiar with Canadian geography. And a couple people I met in that industry referred to the oil in the sand up there as tar sands. I can only go by what I was told.
And all I know is that the oil that comes from there is expensive to extract through massive excavation and requires a lot of refining. My knowledge ends there.
It's all good.
Lac Megantic was Bakken crude.
Go to "oil industry and related news"
Transporting Keystone by Rail
The TSB report is 180 pages
TSB is the same as USA's STB
Go to "oil industry and related news"
Transporting Keystone by Rail
The TSB report is 180 pages
TSB is the same as USA's STB
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: GM4LIFE
Is Mobil 1 0W30 better than the 5W30 I am running now? I mean besides being thinner at cold startups. Does it protect better and have a better formula? Does anyone know for sure?
Also, curious as to why Pennzoil Ultra Platinum isn't available in a 0W30 grade.
Actually M1 0-30 is not thinner at start than M1 5-30. 0 wt oils are not thinner, they are formulated to flow faster at start.
At start meaning pumpability at the extreme cold end of the spectrum for the grade.
"flow" in an engine, at anything even down to 15C below freezing is virtually identical.
Originally Posted By: GM4LIFE
Is Mobil 1 0W30 better than the 5W30 I am running now? I mean besides being thinner at cold startups. Does it protect better and have a better formula? Does anyone know for sure?
Also, curious as to why Pennzoil Ultra Platinum isn't available in a 0W30 grade.
Actually M1 0-30 is not thinner at start than M1 5-30. 0 wt oils are not thinner, they are formulated to flow faster at start.
At start meaning pumpability at the extreme cold end of the spectrum for the grade.
"flow" in an engine, at anything even down to 15C below freezing is virtually identical.
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
And you are the only one working in the lubrication industry?
If this is the case, you never care about what other people say?
Only your opinion matters? Do you always insult your colleagues when they don't agree with you?
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
What I find hilarious is when you get some Yankee in usa somewhere panicking when the temperature gets down to near the freezing point (32 F or 0 C for you yanks who don't know what that is). They think they must have 0W- in their car, otherwise it won't start or they are going to do horrible damage to their engine. You see statements like "geez, it got down to 35 F last night, was glad when I went to start the car this morning that I had 0W-20 in there otherwise I'd be screwed."
Like I said, I live in a place where it gets down to -40 C (that's -40 F for you yanks who don't understand C) and I just put in 5W-20 all year round as specified on the oil cap. The vehicle is 7 years old and I don't have my engine blowing up on me. I don't plug in until it gets below -30 C (-22 F for you special people) and I have no issues.
Being mean over the internet will not prove your point, just classify you as someone to avoid or eventually a troll.
You can bring your knowledge on this site and still be respectful, it will only bring you respect back and people looking for advice.
Maybe you should read more here, and you will see that there are a LOT of knowledgeable people here, some even working in the lubrication industry.
You are not helping yourselves writing like you did.
Are you sure I don't work in the lubricants industry?
And you are the only one working in the lubrication industry?
If this is the case, you never care about what other people say?
Only your opinion matters? Do you always insult your colleagues when they don't agree with you?
I run 0w30 and I'm sticking to it
Put 0w20 in my truck this winter because 1) No reason not to, its spec'ed for synth blend 5w20. And 2) If I get I get a call or the tones drop in the middle of the night it will give me piece of mind on the 2min drive to the station.
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