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#2836443 - 12/15/12 11:31 PM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 08/12/12
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Loc: indiana
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no love for the crysler 3.3, 3.8 family? ive seen many of those engines in dodge caravans run a long time reliably. the transmissions they were mated to ruined their reputation, but they were/are reliable engines.
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#2836447 - 12/15/12 11:44 PM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: donnyj08]
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Registered: 10/04/09
Posts: 1893
Loc: Ohio
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no love for the crysler 3.3, 3.8 family? ive seen many of those engines in dodge caravans run a long time reliably. the transmissions they were mated to ruined their reputation, but they were/are reliable engines. They were mediocre engines that guzzle fuel, have no power, and consume a lot of oil. They're better forgotten. As far as the best V6s, the ones currently in production by all major manufacturers all seem to be pretty darn impressive. They all seem to get 260-280hp out of 3.5 liters and get close to 30mpg doing it, even with modern emissions controls. I think that's better than something made in the past.
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#2836453 - 12/16/12 12:10 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: hattaresguy]
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Registered: 07/24/10
Posts: 981
Loc: Fl
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Buick 231 or I guess its also a GM 3800. An GM 4.3l are the best IMO.
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#2836467 - 12/16/12 12:43 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 07/21/12
Posts: 1006
Loc: ohio
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#2836473 - 12/16/12 01:05 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 03/28/10
Posts: 467
Loc: Home of the CTS-V
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Has to be the GM 3800 but I would include the Ford 300 I6 if I could.
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#2836484 - 12/16/12 02:28 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: chad8]
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 6078
Loc: Birmingham, AL
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3.0 toyota. I have had 3 of them . Not a problem ever. Dealer said that they last 250000 with little maintenance. I changed oil and plugs . that was it. sold it with 133000. I'm sure its still going. I thought these were known for head gasket failures and Toyota was replacing the HGs for years outside of the original warranty? That was the case with the 4Runners/pickups at least in the 1990s. I'd argue that maybe the 3.4 was a better motor, but I really hated doing oil changes on them through the wheel well.
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#2836490 - 12/16/12 02:55 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 6078
Loc: Birmingham, AL
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am i wrong on this i would assume the vulcan wore reliable than the GM offerings. is that wrong? That's a coin toss. The GM engines are highly prone to LIM failures and it is a major issue if ignored. Otherwise though, not many issues with them. The Vulcan is good, but not without its issues either though... - Cam synchro. Affects all models with distributorless ignition (coil pack). This part replaces the distributor in EDIS Fords and likes to destroy itself. It gives PLENTY of warning, usually for months before failure. It will scream bloody murder long before it gets to the point of locking up the oil pump. People do sometimes ignore the months of "SCREEEECCHH...chirp chirp chirp" though until the oil pump does fail. If you replace it when the noise starts it's not a big deal. It's about $80-$90 for the OEM part, at least back in 2009 or so when I last bought one. Not hard to replace, though you need to mark the orientation of the original when you take it out. Do NOT use Dorman...Motorcraft or A1 Cardone only. Most Vulcans will need this part replaced at some point in their life, and some, particularly on Taurus boards, do it as preventive maintenance at around 100K miles. Failure can happen much sooner than that though. My truck trashed the original at 60K miles. Dorman replacements only make it 10-15K miles before failing. - Taurus cooling system. Aerostars and Rangers are unaffected by this, but the Taurus used a completely different cooling system from these RWD vehicles, and the Taurus cooling system has some issues. Corrosion, early water pump failures, and coolant reservoir failures are common. If you are anal about cooling system maintenance, it's fine. If not, problems. Not too different from GM in that respect, but probably just not as widespread. - Oil leaks. All Vulcans leak. Ford supposedly revised the gasket for the oil pan at some point, but you'll likely still get a nice film. I just consider it automatic undercoating. My truck has leaked the same amount since about 40K miles, not going to bother fixing it. Other than that though, the Vulcan is a super reliable engine. Hard to say if it's more or less reliable than similar GM engines, but if reliability is what you want, it's hard to beat an all iron pushrod V6. If you're aware of the potential issues, it won't let you down. I still beat the tar out of my truck fairly regularly and am really not worried about the engine.
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#2836529 - 12/16/12 06:18 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 2073
Loc: New England
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i am wondering what the best v6 ever made was. best meaning reliability and longevity and ease of maintenance. it seems like there is a lot of thought about the 4 bangers and v8 but v6 seem to be a middle child. whats your opinions and preferably some info / facts on why you picked what you did. i would like to weigh in on this but as of now i cannot pick one..... i honestly don't know enough about the broad class of v6's to have an opinion. hope this turns into a good educational thread. 3800 Buick. [/thread]
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#2836541 - 12/16/12 06:37 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 11/29/03
Posts: 394
Loc: Ohio
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I have a 3.5L with 179K+ in a 1996 Chrysler Concorde and I have no engine complaints...and I'm the third owner of this car.
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#2836546 - 12/16/12 06:46 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 6621
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
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GM 3800 by far.
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#2836592 - 12/16/12 08:15 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: addyguy]
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 4055
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Chevrolet 2.8L V-6, 1979-1989.
They had an awesome growl too them, and were great in the smaller J-bodies. They were also pretty reliable, seen lots of them go 200k+ miles. It did seem pretty impressive at the time in my Dad's 85 Buick Skylark, Dad would hit the gas and the tail would drop and the angry chewbacca noises would start. We had a Mazda KLV6 in a 626 and it was nice too, almost an inline 6 sound and smoothness to near 7k rpm. The 3.5 in the Intrepids had also great power at the time, and recently I got to thrash around a pentastar 6 saddled with hauling a Grand Cherokee, I imagine it must make a Chrysler 200 quite a rocket.
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#2836595 - 12/16/12 08:21 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 2013
Loc: Guilford, CT
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Ford 4.0 OHV. I have 174k on mine, never had any problems.
Ford 4.0 SOHC - OK, they were known for bad timing chain tensioners for the first few years, but Ford eventually got it figured out. I expect to get 200k+ trouble free miles from mine. I'm only at 41k so far. Gas mileage isn't that great though.
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#2836609 - 12/16/12 08:37 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 17384
Loc: NY
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Only V6's or are i6's included too? If I6's, the Ford 300 for sure. If V6's, I'm not sure, there are many really good ones out there that aren't plagued with intake gasket issues like many of the GM ones that, albeit being generally long-lived engines, were saddled with this particular "issue". If you include I6's count my vote for the Ford 300, in fact I'd call it the best 6 cylinder engine ever made. Their little 3.0L V6 was one tough cookie too.
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#2836629 - 12/16/12 09:07 AM
Re: what is the best v6 ever made?
[Re: coolbird101]
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Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 3735
Loc: Miami-Dade County
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Chrysler slant 6 / not a v though I agree..My friend had a 72 Dart with the slant 6 and could not kill it.
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