IF they pulled out ALL of the CPs, and added some antimony, boron nitrides, or some other AW/AF compound which is compatible and synergistic with the other ingredients, it would not be a bad additive.
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Chlorines can cause damage and acids within the oil during the combustion process. In a gear application where temps are lower, CP's may not be as critical except for possible seal swelling or drying of the rubber component. Boron has come a long ways over the years, newer nano-boron seems to be a good friction reducer if not used in large amounts.
We found in the lab newer moly's are coming to the market and working great, seems time and technology has come a long ways with Moly options. We did some current testing with a moly additive for an engine building group in California and saw some great results in wear metal debris as well as bearing scaring. When added to their engine oil and doing a ASTM D3233 4-ball wear test, the numbers were pretty impressive.
We did have SGS Labs run a chlorine test on the X1R, it did come back at 140,000ppm utilizing the HL-1168 test method.
We found in the lab newer moly's are coming to the market and working great, seems time and technology has come a long ways with Moly options. We did some current testing with a moly additive for an engine building group in California and saw some great results in wear metal debris as well as bearing scaring. When added to their engine oil and doing a ASTM D3233 4-ball wear test, the numbers were pretty impressive.
We did have SGS Labs run a chlorine test on the X1R, it did come back at 140,000ppm utilizing the HL-1168 test method.
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We found in the lab newer moly's are coming to the market and working great, seems time and technology has come a long ways with Moly options. We did some current testing with a moly additive for an engine building group in California and saw some great results in wear metal debris as well as bearing scaring. When added to their engine oil and doing a ASTM D3233 4-ball wear test, the numbers were pretty impressive.
Were these XOM's/Infinieum's tri-nuclear moly, or something else you've tested??
We found in the lab newer moly's are coming to the market and working great, seems time and technology has come a long ways with Moly options. We did some current testing with a moly additive for an engine building group in California and saw some great results in wear metal debris as well as bearing scaring. When added to their engine oil and doing a ASTM D3233 4-ball wear test, the numbers were pretty impressive.
Were these XOM's/Infinieum's tri-nuclear moly, or something else you've tested??
Hello Dailydriver, great question. The product we tested were tri-nuclear moly, we had seen some great load rate tests and followed up with some compatibility testing in engine oils and gear oils. We were very impressed with the results.
We followed up with some of the end-users that build engines and they had very positive responses as well.
I think it is always a good idea to use a high quality oil when possible, but when you do not have an option, some aftermarket additives can do a good job helping oil quality, just be careful on the one you choose.
We followed up with some of the end-users that build engines and they had very positive responses as well.
I think it is always a good idea to use a high quality oil when possible, but when you do not have an option, some aftermarket additives can do a good job helping oil quality, just be careful on the one you choose.
Does anyone know of any aftermarket, 'over the counter' or even online only, additives which contain the tri-nuclear moly in them, since the average consumer is not allowed to buy the product directly from XOM/Infinieum (at least not in less than trailer load quantities??
Hello Daily Driver, here is a link to the product we tested and now we are using this in many of our fleet engines now. http://boostperformanceproducts.com/28-stop-friction
They do have 5-gallon option for larger fleets if needed.
They do have 5-gallon option for larger fleets if needed.
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Hello Daily Driver, here is a link to the product we tested and now we are using this in many of our fleet engines now. http://boostperformanceproducts.com/28-stop-friction
They do have 5-gallon option for larger fleets if needed.
Do you also use their "Fuel Pills"?
"50 CT CleanBoost® Fuel Pills™ are a quick, cost-effective way to improve fuel economy, extending the useful life of your engine.
50 CT CleanBoost® Fuel Pills™ have been tested extensively by independent labs, shown to reduce carbon particulate emissions and improve fuel combustion."
http://boostperformanceproducts.com/fuel-pills/13-clean-boost-fuel-pills-4-pack.html
Hello Daily Driver, here is a link to the product we tested and now we are using this in many of our fleet engines now. http://boostperformanceproducts.com/28-stop-friction
They do have 5-gallon option for larger fleets if needed.
Do you also use their "Fuel Pills"?
"50 CT CleanBoost® Fuel Pills™ are a quick, cost-effective way to improve fuel economy, extending the useful life of your engine.
50 CT CleanBoost® Fuel Pills™ have been tested extensively by independent labs, shown to reduce carbon particulate emissions and improve fuel combustion."
http://boostperformanceproducts.com/fuel-pills/13-clean-boost-fuel-pills-4-pack.html
Daily Driver,
I use the Fuel Pills with each tank in my gasoline vehicle, my wife does as well.
We are getting 75 more miles per tank out of our SUV with the pills, we love them.
We try to use the CleanBoost Maxx product in our diesel Ford so we have the lubricity if offers, the pills work in the diesel, but the better option is the Maxx product. He have had no issues so far with injectors and use a bunch less Urea as the truck does not regen as much since using the Maxx.
Thanks
I use the Fuel Pills with each tank in my gasoline vehicle, my wife does as well.
We are getting 75 more miles per tank out of our SUV with the pills, we love them.
We try to use the CleanBoost Maxx product in our diesel Ford so we have the lubricity if offers, the pills work in the diesel, but the better option is the Maxx product. He have had no issues so far with injectors and use a bunch less Urea as the truck does not regen as much since using the Maxx.
Thanks
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