What does that have anything to do with the topic at hand.
You said that the only people who have anything to fear from the police are criminals. The fact that police forces have an investigative bureau to protect citizens from the wrong doing of police officers indicates quite the contrary. Or are you saying that IAB were created to protect criminals?
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NOTHING!! I've known several IA investigators, I've been under IA investigations, I have testified in IA investigations about other officers. I've even been sued for doing my job too. Most IA investigators take the job as a stepping stone to a promotion. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, gets a job in law enforcement with the idea that they want to work in the IA unit. Most get told that if they want to get promoted, they will be required to do a stint in IA for 18-24 months.
And No, cops are not scared or terrified of IA. The only people that should be scared of cops are those that break the law, PERIOD. I've witnessed thousands of police/citizen encounters and not once did I witness a cop overstepping their bounds and threatening/scaring law abiding folks. Just doesn't happen around here. In Detroit, maybe, but not around here. I have seen law breakers that are non-compliant dealt with in a harsh manner to gain compliance. 100% justified and rightfully so.
It doesn't really matter what you have seen or haven't seen. It's a documented fact that police officers have engaged in and committed many many crimes. Not saying it is the norm, but it certainly does happen.
You can keep saying that only criminals have anything to fear from the police, but given the amount of police officers who have been charged with and convicted of crimes against persons, this statement is factually false, unless you're one of those people who feels that a criminal with a badge is not in fact a criminal. And that's not even going into general misconduct.
I think you are the one who is getting quite off topic, however. I never made any statements that people should fear the police at large. My original question (which was never directed at you) was regarding certain specific incidences, without making any assumption as to quantity.
A person made a statement that literally stated that in general, a person placed in fear of their life of another person should kill that person as a solution to the presentation of that threat. I queried if this policy applied to a citizen who had their life threatened by a police officer. Again, not only did I make no statement as to whether this does go on at all, but I didn't even attempt to establish the frequency of such an incident.
In order for my question to be reasonable, I only need show that there is even one police officer out there who has engaged in wrongdoing that would cause a person to be in fear of their lives.
Given the amount of police officers currently sitting in prison for everything from armed trafficking, to rape, assault, corruption, child molestation, weapons trafficking, manslaughter, and even premeditated murder after being arrested by the police for these crimes, establishing that citizens have had their lives threatened and taken illegally by police officers is pretty easy, and certainly undeniable.
That police threaten the lives of honest citizens is a forgone conclusion, and to argue against such, using personal anecdotes is what is irrelevant.
A straw man argument, in which you avoid directly answering the question I asked (and never asked of you), and insinuate that I am saying that people should fear all police under all circumstances is crafty, but I'm not taking the bait on that one.
But keep hammering away at a statement I never made, and a question I never asked if it makes you feel good to keep banging away at the keyboard.
