Any reason to prefer M1 EP 0W20 over TGMO?

[CATERHAM]

Thanks Bryan I'm sure you're right. It appears Honda was first by quite a few years specifying the 0W-20 grade. Toyota didn't till I think 2009 for the Prius, the original was spec'd for 5W-30.

The 2nd Generation Insight, Civic Hybrid and Fit models have the so-called 0W-10 Ultra Green as the FF from Japan. This oil is available, likely a non SAE precursor to the Honda 0W-16.
Those that can't wait can get Ultra Green here:

http://jaytec-lubricants.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=162_148&products_id=271

 

[ffxfina3]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Thanks Bryan I'm sure you're right. It appears Honda was first by quite a few years specifying the 0W-20 grade.


Well, my scanner is malfunctioning. But here are some photographs of the front and back. Not as good as a scanned copy, but oh well.

Pamphlet side A

Pamphlet Side B


Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Those that can't wait can get Ultra Green here:

http://jaytec-lubricants.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=162_148&products_id=271


That is interesting. Something tells me that might make Sustina 0w-20 seem cheap, but of course, I haven't contacted them.[/quote]

-Bryan

 

[CATERHAM]

The first Honda 0W-20 bottle displayed in that Insight brochure is the same Idemitsu bottle Honda Canada is using today. If the "new uniquely formulated Honda Genuine 0W-20" was the same as the 200 VI high moly 0W-20 that I first became aware of in 2009, and I suspect it was, it took years before Toyota jumped on the high VI 0W-20 bandwagon.

 

[ffxfina3]

Here are the links to the full size pictures of the pamphlet, if anybody is interested:

Full Size - Side A

Full Size - Side B

-Bryan