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#3130011 - 09/19/13 08:12 PM Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL?
youdontwannaknow Offline


Registered: 12/18/06
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Loc: MN
I am attempting to sell the Accord privately. Some calls to the classified were from people who had "International License/Permit" but were in the process of applying or going to apply for the state license soon. At first I was hesitant but really do I need to care in what license status will the buyer be driving the car ? On the other extreme, is the buyer even required by law to verify that the buyer has a valid driver's license ? because even if I wanted to, how would I ?
State is MN if that matters.

Another question - who actually does the title transfer ? The buyer or the seller ? Do I just give the buyer the original title and registration and they deal with it ? Or should I (seller) be taking care of it ?
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#3130017 - 09/19/13 08:15 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
Chris142 Offline


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Sounds like a scam to me.
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#3130019 - 09/19/13 08:16 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
earlyre Offline


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normally, as far as the title goes, there should be a place for the seller to sign off that they've sold it, and the buyer then takes it to the title dept. (@ least that's how it's worked for me here in Ohio.)
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#3130021 - 09/19/13 08:18 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 32535
Loc: New Jersey
I'd personally be concerned. Id want I'd and proof of insurance from anyone. Just because someone dumped some cash on you and took your signed title doesn't mean that they won't keep driving it and them have "lost" the title and claim they were borrowing the car or something.

Some states the plates stay with the car, obviously it's easier to avoid this if you pull the plates.

Still. Worrisome.

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#3130022 - 09/19/13 08:19 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
zrxkawboy Offline


Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 873
Loc: SD
I don't know the answers to your specific questions, but let me throw something out there. If you let an unlicensed driver drive your car (test drive before purchase), and there is an accident, your insurance probably won't cover it.

The title transfer process varies by state. In SD, I would sign and date the title, and the buyer would be responsible for the actual transfer. The only other thing I would do is to print out temp (paper) plates and tape them in the front and back windows, until the buyer can transfer the title and get it registered.

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#3130025 - 09/19/13 08:20 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
simple_gifts Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 8433
Loc: Middlesex County CT
In CT, I sign over the title, take the plates off the car and keep the registration. Also make an ad hoc bill of sale (which is legal in CT) saying you are selling the car to so and so, for x dollars, y miles on it, as is, no implied warranty. Do this at the buyers house, no issues.


Edited by simple_gifts (09/19/13 08:21 PM)
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#3130028 - 09/19/13 08:22 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
cmorr Offline


Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 621
Loc: Exeter Twp, PA
When I have sold cars privately I ask to see a drivers license before a test drive.

I had one guy tell me that his was suspended and still wanted to do the test drive !!
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#3130034 - 09/19/13 08:26 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
skyactiv Offline


Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 412
Loc: The Midwest
I assume you should go to a public notary. You should also make sure the title is signed over to the buyer in presence of the notary with a gel pen. No open title funny business that guys who flip old cars often do.

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#3130037 - 09/19/13 08:29 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
javacontour Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 7215
Loc: Illinois
Having just bought a car in IL, I noticed the titles have a receipt on them now. The buyer signs the receipt saying they got the title and that's your proof they bought the car.

I've done the same as others, a bill of sale, I sign the title over to them after I have the cash, we both sign two copies of the BOS, I take my plates and tell them to enjoy the car.

Bottom line, if you don't feel comfortable with the customer, decline to show them the car.
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#3130050 - 09/19/13 08:44 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: JHZR2]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
Posts: 2606
Loc: Call it NNJ
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I'd personally be concerned. Id want I'd and proof of insurance from anyone. Just because someone dumped some cash on you and took your signed title doesn't mean that they won't keep driving it and them have "lost" the title and claim they were borrowing the car or something.

Some states the plates stay with the car, obviously it's easier to avoid this if you pull the plates.

Still. Worrisome.


We don't have "Bill Of Sale" here in NJ to cover transfer of ownership in lieu of or as an indefinite length of time answer to Title transfer, do we? Florida, Ohio do...
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#3130051 - 09/19/13 08:44 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
Brenden Offline


Registered: 03/03/10
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Loc: Mn
If its a 5spd I would be interested in buying it... just sayin...
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#3130052 - 09/19/13 08:45 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
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Also, NJ you do not have to get Titles notarized like in Ohio.
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#3130054 - 09/19/13 08:47 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 12611
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: youdontwannaknow
I am attempting to sell the Accord privately. Some calls to the classified were from people who had "International License/Permit" but were in the process of applying or going to apply for the state license soon. At first I was hesitant but really do I need to care in what license status will the buyer be driving the car ? On the other extreme, is the buyer even required by law to verify that the buyer has a valid driver's license ? because even if I wanted to, how would I ?
State is MN if that matters.

Another question - who actually does the title transfer ? The buyer or the seller ? Do I just give the buyer the original title and registration and they deal with it ? Or should I (seller) be taking care of it ?


I always write a "Bill of Sale" for the vehicle (with price) along with the title. I would have both sign the title and then make a copy for yourself. With the signed Bill of Sale and signed title you have transferred ownership of the vehicle which is the important thing. You do not need to have a drivers license to own a vehicle, nor to you have to have insurance. We are talking owning here which is really all the seller cares about. Registering and driving are different.

You may have the car priced such that its the ideal vehicle for people new to this country. Thus international license.
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#3130060 - 09/19/13 08:52 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: youdontwannaknow]
stephen9666 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 2321
Loc: USA
The OP needs to find out the specific rules in his state. A bunch of posts from people all over the country won't be that helpful.

Whenever I've sold cars I had them sign a bill of sale, removed the plates and called it a day.

If you're worried, do the deal at the DMV or ask the DMV what you need to do to indicate you sold the vehicle.
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#3130069 - 09/19/13 09:02 PM Re: Selling car privately. required to check buyer DL? [Re: stephen9666]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
Posts: 2606
Loc: Call it NNJ
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
The OP needs to find out the specific rules in his state. A bunch of posts from people all over the country won't be that helpful.

Whenever I've sold cars I had them sign a bill of sale, removed the plates and called it a day.

If you're worried, do the deal at the DMV or ask the DMV what you need to do to indicate you sold the vehicle.


Standard practice is that both parties go to DMV at the same time to transfer title then newly titled owner gets new plates or signs their old ones or whatever they do to register.

Like a drug deal... same time.
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