STP S8316 Oil Filter Cut Open

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I've been posting a good bit about these double ADBV Liberty diesel filters as I find them very interesting. Well I recently intended to put this one to use, but dropped it like a dummy and put a bad dent in it. It would have probably been okay but I decided to open it up instead.

The STP S8316 crosses to the Fram PH/TG8316, the Puro L25230 and Napa Gold (Wix) 1315. All of these filters feature double ADBV's for maximum retention of the oil in the top of the engine. The Fram is shorter, about 4" like the FL-400S (which these filters also cross to) but the Wix, Puro and STP pictured here are all closer to 5" long. The Wix/Napa feature an apparent silicone traditional ADBV along with the second valve, the Fram and Puro are black nitrile (except the Tough Guard version which is silicone).

The STP may be the best bang for the buck of any of them as it is regularly priced at $4.49 at Auto Zone. It is made by Champ Labs but is not an e-core application. Anyway, onto the pics.

The box, just noticed I shot the Spanish side, hah!



What you'll find inside:



The base plate, note the apparent silicone ADBV, also a good quantity of hole space for flow, you can also see the second ADBV down the center tube.



An outside length shot:



What's inside when you pop the lid. Here's where you start to learn something you weren't expecting. The "silicone" ADBV turned out to be rather rigid and disappointing in flexibility. Nothing like the "S" series Motorcrafts I recently opened that were very soft like fresh bubble gum. I've felt softer and more flexible nitrile ADBV's. That may have no effect on how well it works but it was a surprise and a bit of a disappointment.



Pretty pleats at first. Quite a good quantity too, I counted 49 of them. The media did not "feel" as strong to me as say a Fram orange can would, but there was a good bit of it.



The seam side. Not quite as impressive but still just fine, everything was sealed well and resisted me trying to pull it apart quite well.



Now the ugly. Lots of glue glopping out of the metal endcap. It probably has nothing to do with actual function but it isn't impressive either.



Shot of the dome end bypass.



The leaf spring. I was surprised to find a 4 legged leaf spring instead of two. I like it, it appeared a little more stable to me than double legged springs.



Everything all laid out:



Media length measurement. The STP has about an extra inch on the FL-400S which equates to about 25% more media length. However the FL-400S has 16% more pleats. I didn't physically measure the media but it appears reasonable that the STP has a slight edge in media area. The STP is advertised at 96% efficiency, the Motorcrafts are generally thought to be around 94% efficiency.




So there we have it. Would I run this filter? Yes I would, and will, but I also learned a good bit, this is still a lot of filter for $4.49 but it also showed it's price point a bit when opened.

Hope you enjoyed it, I did!
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Would I run this filter? Yes I would, and will, but I have to stop dropping them just to give me an excuse to cut them open.

Hope you enjoyed it, I did!

KC, I fixed it for you, per our conversation.
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As usual, great write up along with great pics. Now I am sure this will be my next filter purchose.
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Would I run this filter? Yes I would, and will, but I have to stop dropping them just to give me an excuse to cut them open.

Hope you enjoyed it, I did!

KC, I fixed it for you, per our conversation.
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As usual, great write up along with great pics. Now I am sure this will be my next filter purchose.
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Ha ha you've already found me out!

I must say this is the first "virgin" filter I've cut open, it is much easier than a used, oil soaked monster for sure.
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Would I run this filter? Yes I would, and will, but I have to stop dropping them just to give me an excuse to cut them open.

Hope you enjoyed it, I did!

KC, I fixed it for you, per our conversation.
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As usual, great write up along with great pics. Now I am sure this will be my next filter purchose.
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Ha ha you've already found me out!

I must say this is the first "virgin" filter I've cut open, it is much easier than a used, oil soaked monster for sure.

KC, do you use a Dremel or a hacksaw? I now use my Dremel, being my 4" cutters are still back in FL in my sons possession.
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I was using a hacksaw at first but that became too messy. I was wearing more oil then what was left in the filter.
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BTW, I own one of those Harbor Freight Dremels. Cost about a 1/4 of a real Dremel and does the same job.
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Typical Playboy readers, all lookie and no readie! KCJ stated that it wasn't an E core !
Thats what naked filter porn will do to ya! LOL.
Thanks for the pic's KCJ.
DD
 
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Typical Playboy readers, all lookie and no readie! KCJ stated that it wasn't an E core !
Thats what naked filter porn will do to ya! LOL.
Thanks for the pic's KCJ.
DD

Yes, I know this and KC knows I am j/k.
Seriously, it is a very nice looking filter and for $4.49 it's a bargain!
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Interesting filter. Thanks for cutting, KC! Do I see a dent in it and is that why it went sacrificial alter to satisfy the lust of the filter porn addicts?

STP is advertised at 96% @ 20 um?
 
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Just some thoughts on the S8316 dissected here.

The S8316 application is unique in a couple ways compared to standard STP oil filter construction. This filter uses a silicone adbv which afaik is the only STP filter to do so. Nitrile gaskets are standard, whether Ecore or classic construction.

Obviously the second centertube adbv is also unique compared to standard STP construction. But the fact that it is combined here with a silicone adbv leads me to believe that the specific (engine) applications this filter is intended/listed for are very prone to dry start, and/or severe start up rattle and perhaps for an extended time period. I conclude this because the dual adbv filter applications only represent a very small portion of the oil filter market. In other words, for the vast majority of applications, the centertube adbv is unnecessary.

As for the four spoke combination leaf spring and bypass top, that is long time standard Champ construction. One of the reason for the four spokes I assume is in addition to holding the media core in place it also serves as the dome bypass. Based on my posting of the S2808 (linked below), this type bypass is apparently called a clicker type bypass. The flat portion (pic #10) covers and seals the six holes shown in pic #9. With the spring/cover removed, the six holes are open down the centertube. In the case of the S8316 however, the second centertube adbv could be viewed. Based on some internet comments the reliabilty of the clicker bypass has been questioned. In any case, a unique/odd bypass design.

I'd say this S8316 shown is worth the quoted everyday price. Thanks for the pics.

STP S2808 Dissected
 
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
Nice, but is there a photo of the interior cage? I bet it is an E-Core.


Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
Nice, but is there a photo of the interior cage? I bet it is an E-Core.

Uh oh. E-Core? There goes my purchase.


Originally Posted By: Cristobal
I hope he is right. I have an STP filter that looks almost exactly like that and it is an E-Core.


Oh yee of little faith.
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No this is the "Classic" Champ Labs design, this filter is spec'd for a much higher burst strength than I think an ecore could take.

However, since I am in the Show Me State, I went back to cutting. YES there is a metal center tube under all that pretty media.

While I was at it I went ahead and measured out the media and came up with 183.75 square inches. I've never tried that before but I think I did it right.

Oh, Blue, I use a hacksaw. Crude but effective. I was going to buy a filter cutter once upon a time but at this point don't see any reason to spend the money on one.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Would you say that this filter has more or less paper in it than the stock ph16 size filter?


Well I calculated the STP at 183.75 square inches. I'm pretty sure that is more than say an orange can PH16, but a Mopar or Puro Classic in the stock size? I don't know on that one, I'll have to dig around on line and see if anyone else has measured the media on those.
 
Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Interesting filter. Thanks for cutting, KC! Do I see a dent in it and is that why it went sacrificial alter to satisfy the lust of the filter porn addicts?

STP is advertised at 96% @ 20 um?


These are kinda neat filters. You are right, I was going to install it and reached for something on a high shelf, the filter came right out of the box and planted on the concrete, about a 5 foot drop and it got a nasty dent out of the deal. I was thinking of running it anyway but decided against and just thought I'd gut it instead.

I have seen the STP's listed/advertised at 96% and now I'm not sure where I got that figure. It might be on the box, I will have to check again.
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Obviously the second centertube adbv is also unique compared to standard STP construction. But the fact that it is combined here with a silicone adbv leads me to believe that the specific (engine) applications this filter is intended/listed for are very prone to dry start, and/or severe start up rattle and perhaps for an extended time period. I conclude this because the dual adbv filter applications only represent a very small portion of the oil filter market. In other words, for the vast majority of applications, the centertube adbv is unnecessary.

STP S2808 Dissected


You sir are exactly right. These are spec'd for some older Fords that had special "no dry start" considerations, and also the Jeep Liberty diesels that must have had dry start problems as well. That is what got me interested in these as they will fit my Jeep and for whatever reason my particular Jeep has had a horrible problem with start up rattle.

That said I am disappointed to report that the Fram PH8316 Liberty diesel filter I put on instead of this one (because I dropped it) is NOT working for me. I had bad DEATH RATTLE with it this morning, oh I hate that sound and it seems like it will never end!

So the saga continues. I have complicated things a bit by trying to run a light 10w40 as well, I thought I could get away with it in summer but it ain't helping my start up issues at all. I will probably put another FL-400S on, which has been the miracle filter for this Jeep in the past, if that doesn't work then I know it's the oil.
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Obviously the second centertube adbv is also unique compared to standard STP construction. But the fact that it is combined here with a silicone adbv leads me to believe that the specific (engine) applications this filter is intended/listed for are very prone to dry start, and/or severe start up rattle and perhaps for an extended time period. I conclude this because the dual adbv filter applications only represent a very small portion of the oil filter market. In other words, for the vast majority of applications, the centertube adbv is unnecessary.

STP S2808 Dissected


You sir are exactly right. These are spec'd for some older Fords that had special "no dry start" considerations, and also the Jeep Liberty diesels that must have had dry start problems as well. That is what got me interested in these as they will fit my Jeep and for whatever reason my particular Jeep has had a horrible problem with start up rattle.

That said I am disappointed to report that the Fram PH8316 Liberty diesel filter I put on instead of this one (because I dropped it) is NOT working for me. I had bad DEATH RATTLE with it this morning, oh I hate that sound and it seems like it will never end!

So the saga continues. I have complicated things a bit by trying to run a light 10w40 as well, I thought I could get away with it in summer but it ain't helping my start up issues at all. I will probably put another FL-400S on, which has been the miracle filter for this Jeep in the past, if that doesn't work then I know it's the oil.

Why not try the S8316?
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