Top All-Season Tires? Michelin or Comparable?

[MattPersman]

On a 20 year old jeep Liberty cost has to be considered tough swallow spending close to $1k on Michelin tires

Meh would rather have good tires on anything you are driving than think about how old or how valuable it is. If you can’t put good tires on it not sure why you would drive it

 

[dumkid]

Yes, but you can always book an appointment, and then have pizza and a hot dog, and chicken bake, with some sandee, and gain 2-3lbs.

Stahp you're making me hungry

 

[edyvw]

Meh would rather have good tires on anything you are driving than think about how old or how valuable it is. If you can’t put good tires on it not sure why you would drive it

I always find it fascinating how people think that old car deserves cheaper tires because I guess the laws of physics are less ruthless to older vehicles.

 

[John105]

Yes, but you can always book an appointment, and then have pizza and a hot dog, and chicken bake, with some sandee, and gain 2-3lbs.

I agree the appt process leaves a lot to be desired. It’s usually booked out 10+ days. Which is silly because when I needed road hazard just drove and walked up. Sometimes they literally just drive the car in. Not in Delaware though, they are slammed due to no sales tax.

But does anyone think the wait is better at a tire shop? Other than W Phila where there it’s like a pit crew at a road race, they’ll do 4 tires and you may not even need to get out of the vehicle

 

[John105]

Meh would rather have good tires on anything you are driving than think about how old or how valuable it is. If you can’t put good tires on it not sure why you would drive it

I’ve done both and I can see it both ways.

My 10 yo Lexus sold used at a new car dealer had Rydanz Roadster 02s that were $88 at Walmart. I used them from 2016-2022.

At that time I got the Pilot Sport A/S 4. So this is from one extreme to another.

My wife said you’re going to toss 4 brand new tires? Isn’t that a waste of money? I thought I don’t waste food maybe I shouldn’t waste them either.

Money and cost do matter imho no matter how well off we are….my .02

 

[edyvw]

I agree the appt process leaves a lot to be desired. It’s usually booked out 10+ days. Which is silly because when I needed road hazard just drove and walked up. Sometimes they literally just drive the car in. Not in Delaware though, they are slammed due to no sales tax.

But does anyone think the wait is better at a tire shop? Other than W Phila where there it’s like a pit crew at a road race, they’ll do 4 tires and you may not even need to get out of the vehicle

DT is busy too. Worst, I come to order tires, they never call me back. etc.
It is what it is.

 

[c502cid]

I always find it fascinating how people think that old car deserves cheaper tires because I guess the laws of physics are less ruthless to older vehicles.

Just maybe everyone doesn't have the same income level. Not that hard to understand.

 

[edyvw]

Just maybe everyone doesn't have the same income level. Not that hard to understand.

I don’t see income being issue here. All tires listed are in higher price range.
Tire is by far the most important safety equipment on the vehicle. And very often equipment that everyone wants to save on.

 

[nickaluch]

Meh would rather have good tires on anything you are driving than think about how old or how valuable it is. If you can’t put good tires on it not sure why you would drive it

I think different I would rather put a good budget tire on them go top shelf. The vehicle is 22 years old save the money for a needed future repair

 

[edyvw]

I think different I would rather put a good budget tire on them go top shelf. The vehicle is 22 years old save the money for a needed future repair

He listed BF Goodrich TrailTerrain T/A. Difference in stopping distance between that tire and Michelin Defender LTX is 45ft in wet. And BFG is not considered budget tire. So it makes sense to save money for repairs if going budget tire.

 

[nickaluch]

He listed BF Goodrich TrailTerrain T/A. Difference in stopping distance between that tire and Michelin Defender LTX is 45ft in wet. And BFG is not considered budget tire. So it makes sense to save money for repairs if going budget tire.

Let's be honest here it's a 22 year old most likely a beater material liberty you wanna put $1k in tires? Drive slower in the rain with $500 budget tires

 

[edyvw]

Let's be honest here it's a 22 year old most likely a beater material liberty you wanna put $1k in tires? Drive slower in the rain with $500 budget tires

Yes, I would. How slow do you want to drive in rain? 5mph? 10mph instead of 50? The number I gave you is the difference at 50mph.
Generally, tires are cheaper than medical bills, or injury. I don't get how people can put price on life or being injured.

 

[nickaluch]

Yes, I would. How slow do you want to drive in rain? 5mph? 10mph instead of 50? The number I gave you is the difference at 50mph.
Generally, tires are cheaper than medical bills, or injury. I don't get how people can put price on life or being injured.

You can get the general tires 65k warranty a good budget tire compared to the Michelin for half the price for a beater. It's a good compromise you don't need top shelf for a beater

 

[edyvw]

You can get the general tires 65k warranty a good budget tire compared to the Michelin for half the price for a beater. It's a good compromise you don't need top shelf for a beater

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There is a reason for price difference. General is budget tire of Continental. Where is performance in 30k? Generally, budget tires are budget, as performance deterioration is far worse than top category.
Take into consideration, that at Costco with discount difference between that General and Michelin is around $300 OTD. Your call.

 

[edyvw]

Double.

 

[nickaluch]

There is a reason for price difference. General is budget tire of Continental. Where is performance in 30k? Generally, budget tires are budget, as performance deterioration is far worse than top category.
Take into consideration, that at Costco with discount difference between that General and Michelin is around $300 OTD. Your call.

My call is general it will probably outlast a 22 year old beater. In 30k most likely in the junkyard

 

[edyvw]

My call is general it will probably outlast a 22 year old beater. In 30k most likely in the junkyard

Maybe people maintain cars differently then you.

 

[nickaluch]

Maybe people maintain cars differently then you.

It's a jeep with 3.7 it will be on the back of a tow truck

 

[John105]

Cars do last a long time today…I literally was looking at my mfg sticker this AM at work and it said 9/05. That’s over 18 years, and no rust. My first car was only 11 (Volvo 244) and it was rusted through both fenders, rear doors, and behind rear 1/4 mud flaps. Times changed cars can be driven a really long time not to mention car prices now…

 

[IndyIan]

Yes, I would. How slow do you want to drive in rain? 5mph? 10mph instead of 50? The number I gave you is the difference at 50mph.
Generally, tires are cheaper than medical bills, or injury. I don't get how people can put price on life or being injured.

If you do the calculations I'm pretty sure just going 5-8mph slower does have the lower grip tire stopping sooner than the best tire. I do agree though that tires are basically the only main component that really matters on car in terms of upgrading safety in accident avoidance performance.
I split the difference with always running half decent winter tires, but then running my old drying out michelin defenders with pretty bad wet grip in the summer, and just slowing down the ~1% time I'm driving in busy traffic in the rain...