Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Shannow,
I said Western States residence has cleaner sources of electricity, this is based on 33% of all electricity generated in US in 2015 was coal.
The US map above showed very little power plant in Western States use coal.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Then look at where Ca is getting it's electricity from...
again, there's an extension lead running to the neighbour's yard.
To use one of your recent analogies, you've got your ZEV in your shed running, but the extension lead to the generator that is running in your neighbour's.
My statement about cleaner sources of electricity in California is based on California Energy Commission report below
http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/electricity_generation.html
California imported 98,000 Gigawatt Hours in 2014, of those amount coal power was 12,400 GWH and instate coal power was 1,000 GWH.
The total coal power we used in California in 2014 was 13,400 out of total 296,800 GWH for 4.5%.
4.5% is very low compares with 33% of total in US, that is why I said we use fairly clean source of power.
Yes, we imported much more power the last few years than in 80's and 90's and early 00's. The reason was the permit to build anything in California is so hard to obtain, also the cost of doing business here is too expensive. The power companies just go the easy way, import electricity from surrounding states and from Mexico. I also hear that few year ago a power company in California built a power plant in Arizona and import back into California, it was easy and cheap that way.
I withdraw this statement "Western States residence has cleaner sources of electricity". I was wrong by looking at the other map and came up with this statement.
I checked individual states and found the official state energy report showed that these states have up to 40% of their electricity generated with coal power plant(s).
As far as I know now, only California out of all western states has power generated by coal at less than 5% of the total consumption.
Yes, when I got my Model 3 I will plug it in an outlet to charge its battery, probably from around 10PM till 7AM to take advantage of the lowest price. Where the power I use come from I have no idea, my power company is SCE(Southern California Edison), they don't tell their customers where they purchased their electricity.