Originally Posted By: Shrubitup
The difference between a sub compact and a compact is about $3000 when they're on sale. You get a lot more with the civic or corolla including resale.
But there is a lot more to go wrong with the higher featured cars. Will they go wrong? Probably not. But if one is buying for resale ... they'd be best not going with a new car and taking the depreciation hit.
Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: Miller88
This is exactly what I'd want in a car. If a tree fell on the Focus tomorrow, I'd try to find this or a Mirage. Or maybe a note.
The buzzyness doesn't bother me. I would try to figure out a way to add power locks from the inside.
I don't like, at all, that the intake manifold has to come off to change the plugs.
I think if you could get a good enough deal on it, it would be worth buying some sound deadening and putting it under the carpet.
I am largely in a agreement. I have two vehicles which I find very nice. I like them. They, to me, are as nice as I need or want. I do not want to pay for a third. Would it be nice? Sure. But not if I have to pay for it. I think I can get over the power locks in short order.
The noise, well... Tomorrow I want to run into Home Depot and look. I want to say there is some sort of carpet underlayment, and I bet it works as noise suppressor. Put that under the carpet. Or on top of, lets be real, the carpet isn't very thick at all. I wonder about getting that pink eggcrate stuff, the sort you out under mattresses or for packing material, and stuffing behind the dash. Pop the door panels off and put anything behind them.
The intake biz is stupid, but IIRC the plugs are good for 100k, and the coolant for 105k. I bet both will go to 120k if you wanted... I saw in a thread that to do the serpentine you pull a wheel and the liner.
I like to change sparkplugs and coolant early. I changed the plugs at 36K on the Focus and coolant will probably be swapped out this summer (around 55K). I guess I would settle for 60 on both in a Versa.
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
No A/C is adeal killer.
A/C is a deal killer. Paying more for increased parasitic loss doesn't appeal to me.
Two points:
Its a lot warmer in most parts of the US than the UK.
Secondly modern cars get better mileage with the AC on and the windows up. I can actually see the affects at 50-60 on my trucks instant MPG readout.
Yup, when its 115 degrees outside (46 Celsius) then not having A/C is unacceptable. I'd rather have a 10 mpg drop if that meant I had A/C
If it's a dry heat, I could do it. When I was in Las Vegas it was 115 out with almost no humidity. It was sweaty and I could just feel the ridiculous heat, but I had no problems breathing.
It's been getting progressively worse, but I just can not get any air when it's humid out. Not like an asthma attack - the air goes in and out fine, my lungs don't work. I could live with a dry heat - but I do, unfortunately, find myself needing A/C when it's humid out. I enjoy the heat and I'll often run the A/C in the car on a moderate setting just to dry the air out.