Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Just curious, you're OK with your KT pointed at the person across from you since it's in a holster?
No; I won't muzzle anyone with an unloaded weapon, and I sure won't do it with a loaded one, holster or otherwise. That's the reason I brought it up! I was drawing (ha!) a distinction between appendix carry (where you're muzzling yourself) and pocket carry (where you are potentially muzzling others...if you're not paying attention). I pocket carry often, but not exclusively. About the only time I don't pocket carry in a pants pocket is at church, where I would indeed be muzzling someone else. If I carry my Kel-tec to church, it's in my left breast pocket of my suit coat. The muzzle is generally pointed toward my side, but I guess a bullet could graze my gut or leg if I don't draw appropriately. The same can be said of holster carry, though, and it's indeed happened (and on video, on YouTube!).
If I carry my Shield to church, it's in an OWB holster at about 3:00.
Every now and again, I'll find myself in an unexpected situation, such as an unplanned restaurant stop. In that case, and if I'm pants pocket carrying, I'll either sit to where I'm not muzzling someone else, or I'll go put the gun in the car (or into a jacket pocket if I'm wearing one).
Everyone should be as conscientious of their responsibility to others. Agree 100% except with putting the pistol in the car. An IWB holster in the glovebox would fix that situation.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Please explain how a properly holster gun is going to shoot someone? Muzzle sweep is when you're holding a gun. Not properly carrying. Messing with the gun in an attempt to not sweep someone while carrying is infinitely more troublesome than just carrying.
A loaded gun is a loaded gun. You may think it's OK for your loaded pocket pistol to be pointing at me across the room but I sure don't, ever. A situation where you might need to draw from your pocket while sitting and having a negligent discharge in the heat of the moment is a possibility, where's the bullet going to go? If you can't draw from you pocket while sitting what good is that carry? You seem to be justifying sweeping bystanders because it's less dangerous than trying not to? An ND from my strong side holster is going into my leg or foot or the ground somewhere on a line between me and the bad guy, and I can draw from seated without sweeping anyone. My right to self defense doesn't give me the right to choose to put others in potential danger from my choice of carry IMO.