M1HM 0w20 now has dexos1Gen3 approval

[wemay]

 

[Invisible]

That is great news for GM, they get to make more money!

 

[ATex7239]

That is great news for GM, they get to make more money!

XOM isn’t poor little Oliver Twist either though.

 

[C6 Modellsport]

Neat for owners of new enough GM vehicles I suppose. Mine is 53 years young though, not feeding it 0w20 haha

 

[Invisible]

There are two things that customers pay for on that container, and those have nothing to do with the lubricant inside the container: the Dexos 1 Gen 3 license logo, and the NASCAR logo. I get that some will buy it for the Dexos branding, even when they don't own a GM vehicle, which is weird, but how many buy it because of the NASCAR emblem?

 

[wemay]

I can't comment on the NASCAR portion of your post but at least dexos1 requirements are more stringent than API/ ILSAC.

 

[IndyFan]

I don't see the skepticism here. That's a valid and rigorous standard. It validates the oil being of high quality.

 

[4WD]

I don't see the skepticism here. That's a valid and rigorous standard. It validates the oil being of high quality.

Yep … … better than Ford or Mopar IMO …

 

[C6 Modellsport]

I don't see the skepticism here. That's a valid and rigorous standard. It validates the oil being of high quality.

With how often companies lie to us it's hard to trust them at their word

 

[subyski]

I'm surprised we haven't seen oils that "meets or exceeds" or "suitable replacement for" from oil companies without the formal Dexos approvals, like we see with other oils not officially approved by manufacturers.

 

[wemay]

I'm surprised we haven't seen oils that "meets or exceeds" or "suitable replacement for" from oil companies without the formal Dexos approvals, like we see with other oils not officially approved by manufacturers.

I can't remember which off the top of my head but I've seen it more than once.

 

[Scott S]

I would like to see exceeds manufacture specs, instead of meets or exceeds. But I guess in reality, full synthetic, does exceed most vehicles specifications, that doesn't require it.. at least I would hope..

 

[cookand]

There are two things that customers pay for on that container, and those have nothing to do with the lubricant inside the container: the Dexos 1 Gen 3 license logo, and the NASCAR logo. I get that some will buy it for the Dexos branding, even when they don't own a GM vehicle, which is weird, but how many buy it because of the NASCAR emblem?

Back in its hey day, NASCAR had insane brand loyalty. No longer a fan, but based on the continuous rotating driver spnsors and the fact the Cup series doesn’t even have a sponsor, I’d guess not that many. I suspect having that logo doesn’t cost near what it did 30 years ago

 

[Rogueman2016s]

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Do you really need the dexos approval that far out of warranty?

 

[Foxtrot08]

I'm surprised we haven't seen oils that "meets or exceeds" or "suitable replacement for" from oil companies without the formal Dexos approvals, like we see with other oils not officially approved by manufacturers.

Motorcraft does that. As GM wouldn’t give ford / p66 a Dexos license for the full synthetic 5w30 and 0w20 motorcraft.

 

[Invisible]

Motorcraft does that. As GM wouldn’t give ford / p66 a Dexos license for the full synthetic 5w30 and 0w20 motorcraft.

That's petty on GM's part.

 

[picklyrickly1073]

Do you really need the dexos approval that far out of warranty?

What does being in or out of warranty have to do with someone wanting to use oil that’s tested and approved for their engine? Those GM products need all the help they can get

 

[Scott S]

If I had a GM I would want the Dexos approval. But I am picky like that with my vehicles..

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Do you really need the dexos approval that far out of warranty?

Good oils are why that vehicle is far out of warranty. So continue the practice.
What I also like about the pictured thread is that the HM with Dexos 1 Gen 3 is also Triple Action Formula

 

[Rogueman2016s]

So it’s a gm thing, What special sauce is in the oil? According to amsoil their oil surpasses the dexos approval.