I don't get this homeless person

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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
He could be lucky and win.. The chances are small but it can happen.

You're right. He could be the 1 in 100,000,000.

Or, he could be the homeless guy who spends his money on lottery tickets and remains homeless.

Or, he could be the guy who works hourly retail jobs and barely scrapes by, but never improves his situation because he's spending his money on the Poor Man's Tax (or other junk) rather than investing in himself.

Or, he could be the middle class guy, who loses his home, job, and family because he just wants to strike it rich, and you won't win if you don't play, right?

Gambling is bad for everyone, unless you own a casino.
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.


Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?

No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....

They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.


Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.

My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.


A lot of the homeless males are vets. A lot of the homeless females are domestic abuse victims.

It's easy to judge them because it's very easy to just label them and pretend they do not exist.

It takes guts to actually try and know what is going on in reality.


Alfred B the other thread notwithstanding, you are about as close to a troll as I have seen..

This statement is simply WRONG. MANY of new beggars aren't vets at all. As pointed out.. someone visibly like 30 or 40 years old is not a Vietnam vet, everyone's favorite. Older guys can get that off.. what they are are panhandle holding signs that say whatever they want them to say. Not actual veterans. It's a ploy on public pity.

I had a drug addict beggar smash my windshield in Newark NJ when they were calculating a scam about standing in front of me at drive thru so I would hit them. Walked out from nowhere.. i was the second car in the line. AMBUSH. Drugs give you away, you need to knoe what to look for but in this case its obvious.. What did I do? Hit them at low speed, got my food, and drove away. Because it's [censored] them. I still have the receipt from my windshield, but I accept it because I handled it like a man. (What happened? I got my food, and drove off. You can't argue with facts. It takes GUYS to stand up to your reality. And absolutely nothing happened afterward, since crackhead will be crackhead.)

Bluff? Call.

You need to actually "see the reality," like you say to realize what [censored] is peddled.

I'm still waring for that guy that ships out his wallet with upwards of $200 cash in it and gets robbed by this "homeless veteran hungry starving and out of work God bless you" .. Most of the time they just want your wallet to come out of your pants, so that they can take it. And they size up you and the surroundings to see if tey can do it too. It's called "snatch and grab."
 
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MANY of new beggars aren't vets at all.


Who said anything about new beggars. My post is about the homeless.

Read some statistics:

http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/fact-sheet-veteran-homelessness

A small snapshot

The Big Picture
While circumstances can vary, the main reason people experience homelessness is because they cannot find housing they can afford. It is the scarcity of affordable housing in the United States, particularly in more urban areas where homelessness is more prevalent, that is behind their inability to acquire or maintain housing.

By the numbers:

In January 2014, there were 578,424 people experiencing homelessness on any given night in the United States.
Of that number, 216,197 are people in families, and
362,163 are individuals.
About 15 percent of the homeless population – 84,291 - are considered "chronically homeless” individuals, and
About 9 percent of homeless people- 49,933 - are veterans.
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Quote:
MANY of new beggars aren't vets at all.


Who said anything about new beggars. My post is about the homeless.

Read some statistics:

http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/fact-sheet-veteran-homelessness

A small snapshot

The Big Picture
While circumstances can vary, the main reason people experience homelessness is because they cannot find housing they can afford. It is the scarcity of affordable housing in the United States, particularly in more urban areas where homelessness is more prevalent, that is behind their inability to acquire or maintain housing.

By the numbers:

In January 2014, there were 578,424 people experiencing homelessness on any given night in the United States.
Of that number, 216,197 are people in families, and
362,163 are individuals.
About 15 percent of the homeless population – 84,291 - are considered "chronically homeless” individuals, and
About 9 percent of homeless people- 49,933 - are veterans.


And homeless people don't beg?

I think I figured you out.
 
Alfred's numbers are correct.

Something to consider is that the states are not helping the homeless situation by encouraging people to buy lottery tickets, which are frequently purchased by the poor and people on fixed incomes.
 
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Quote:
MANY of new beggars aren't vets at all.


Who said anything about new beggars. My post is about the homeless.

Read some statistics:

http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/fact-sheet-veteran-homelessness

A small snapshot

The Big Picture
While circumstances can vary, the main reason people experience homelessness is because they cannot find housing they can afford. It is the scarcity of affordable housing in the United States, particularly in more urban areas where homelessness is more prevalent, that is behind their inability to acquire or maintain housing.

By the numbers:

In January 2014, there were 578,424 people experiencing homelessness on any given night in the United States.
Of that number, 216,197 are people in families, and
362,163 are individuals.
About 15 percent of the homeless population – 84,291 - are considered "chronically homeless” individuals, and
About 9 percent of homeless people- 49,933 - are veterans.


And homeless people don't beg?

I think I figured you out.


Okay... I will bite. This one time.

fish-caught-hook-10240936_zps56vjsy8f.jpg


So.. Let's assume you're being sincere.. Homeless don't beg. Is that what you're saying?

I'm a thread that describes a homeless person, and how they get money...

I think I figured you out.

Lets get that Flow Troll pic.

Yellow Flow Troll
 
Originally Posted By: gman2304
Sadly, the majority of lottery tickets are purchased by people who can least afford them.


So true. I go to a quick-check type of mart and buy a soda or some gas and there are always people in front of me buying cigarettes at close to $10 a pack and lottery tickets and I can tell they are not made of money. Some are making minimum wage and have to work for over 1 hour to pay for the cigarettes. A few are there for 10 minutes buying all types of combinations for Powerball and Mega. And some of the scratch-off lottery are $5.00, not $1 or $2. These people are not homeless but I am sure are struggling.
 
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Quote:
MANY of new beggars aren't vets at all.


Who said anything about new beggars. My post is about the homeless.

Read some statistics:

http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/fact-sheet-veteran-homelessness

A small snapshot

The Big Picture
While circumstances can vary, the main reason people experience homelessness is because they cannot find housing they can afford. It is the scarcity of affordable housing in the United States, particularly in more urban areas where homelessness is more prevalent, that is behind their inability to acquire or maintain housing.

By the numbers:

In January 2014, there were 578,424 people experiencing homelessness on any given night in the United States.
Of that number, 216,197 are people in families, and
362,163 are individuals.
About 15 percent of the homeless population – 84,291 - are considered "chronically homeless” individuals, and
About 9 percent of homeless people- 49,933 - are veterans.


And homeless people don't beg?

I think I figured you out.


Okay... I will bite. This one time.

fish-caught-hook-10240936_zps56vjsy8f.jpg


So.. Let's assume you're being sincere.. Homeless don't beg. Is that what you're saying?

I'm a thread that describes a homeless person, and how they get money...

I think I figured you out.

Lets get that Flow Troll pic.

Yellow Flow Troll


I have a feeling that you are either insincere or silly.

You cannot possibly equate homelessness with begging. There is some overlap but it is not 100%.

Again, read up. You can be gainfully employed and yet live in a shelter or in a car.
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.


Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?

No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....

They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.


Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.

My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.


A lot of the homeless males are vets. A lot of the homeless females are domestic abuse victims.

It's easy to judge them because it's very easy to just label them and pretend they do not exist.

It takes guts to actually try and know what is going on in reality.


Our church provides coverage one Sat a month at a homeless shelter. They come in at 8 PM, take a shower, eat the food we have brought, sleep and eat breakfast we brought and leave at 7 AM. I have done many of these Sat nights. They each have they own story. A few times we offered them leftover chicken to go in the morning and they said they are always eating chicken and turned it down.
 
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I have a feeling that you are either insincere or silly.

You cannot possibly equate homelessness with begging. There is some overlap but it is not 100%.

Again, read up. You can be gainfully employed and yet live in a shelter or in a car.


Oh so you going to tell me, an individual lived on streets, shelters, as well as cars, how it goes. Ok.

Shelter or car is not "gainfully employed." And I never once begged. Everyone else in the shelter had to get turned away by a wanna - be cocky bouncer dude (6ft1 personal trainer "John," looked like the black Mr. Clean) for being DRUNK. But ok..

I am about to release you back into the sea! If I stay, you will be winning my attention!

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Maybe the homeless person collects scrap instead of begging -


Originally Posted By: larryinnewyork
A couple years ago, I was in the City and saw a homeless person pushing a cart with empties in it.

I asked him how much money he makes a day.
He said: "about 30.00"

I thought that was pretty good.


Many homeless people also live in cheap hotels or their vehicle and are able to have gainful employment.
 
Downtown Chicago has panhandlers everywhere. They are professionals who sit outside office building where there is a lot of foot traffic. I've spoken to a few and they rarely make more than 40-50 dollars a day. It isn't easy standing outdoors all day with a sign dealing with the public. If I'm in a good mood, I will buy the regular guy sitting on the milk crate a 24ounce can of Ice beer. He really appreciates it and I'm just glad that I can help.
 
You stated that you "assumed" he was homeless. He could very well be an eccentric old dude, have money, and just be out collecting cans and just using that money to play the lottery.

Had a neighbor, now deceased, that was well off but went out and picked up cans and did lord who knows what with the money he got in return for cashing them in. Just to see him and the way he dressed, you could assume he was homeless.
 
Well, my financial ship is about to come in big time!
And it's gonna be sweeeeeeeeeet!

I got an email from this guy in Tanzania over in Africa and he is an attorney for an American business man that died last year so he needs help transferring $2 million dollars to the US.

So he offered me a 10% service fee for using my bank account to send the funds to so that's a k00L $200,000 for virtually no work other than a form I'll need to fill out with Homeland Security to explain why a large sum of money is coming to me from outside the country.

So, what nice new car or truck do you guys think I should be looking at once I'm flush with cash?
 
I knew a guy injured in a warehouse forklift accident and sued his employer for $400,000 plus he got $70,000 settlement from Workman's Comp (future MRI scans of neck).

He blew through the money within 5 years. I told him he needs to get a grip on his spending habits.
 
Originally Posted By: cat843
Today just before 8:00AM I went to a food store and stopped at the bottle and can machines for returnable cans/bottles. I cleaned out my car of soda bottles and got 50 cents. A guy I assume was homeless had a large wagon you pull with a handle (garden wagon) filled with cans. He was busy putting them in the can machine. Ten minutes latter I saw him at customer service redeeming his can/bottle refund receipt for cash. Next he was at a lottery machine buying scratch off lottery tickets.

People are free to do what they want, but if I had no money and had to pick up old cans and bottles to get by, I would not waste money on lottery tickets.


Did you speak to him and take a risk in the good Samaritan role?
 
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