I don't get this homeless person
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The lottery seems to be a staple of the homeless pretty much anywhere. Once someone starts living the "easy money" lifestyle, it's pretty hard to get them off of it.
It's a pretty stupid way to live, IMO. There's really nothing easy about living that way.
These people attract a lot of negative feelings, but most are completely harmless.
It's a pretty stupid way to live, IMO. There's really nothing easy about living that way.
These people attract a lot of negative feelings, but most are completely harmless.
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Originally Posted By: larryinnewyork
A couple years ago, I was in the City and saw a homeless person pushing a cart with empties in it.
I asked him how much money he makes a day.
He said: "about 30.00"
Better than I would have guessed. Which equals about $900 per month and $10,800 a year. Little by little it adds up.
My wife is a manager in a boutique store for women fashion owned by multinational company. Fluent English and some Spanish is necessary for her work. Her income is on pair with this homeless guy, about 800€. Often work for 10-13 hours. Crazy world.
Originally Posted By: larryinnewyork
A couple years ago, I was in the City and saw a homeless person pushing a cart with empties in it.
I asked him how much money he makes a day.
He said: "about 30.00"
Better than I would have guessed. Which equals about $900 per month and $10,800 a year. Little by little it adds up.
My wife is a manager in a boutique store for women fashion owned by multinational company. Fluent English and some Spanish is necessary for her work. Her income is on pair with this homeless guy, about 800€. Often work for 10-13 hours. Crazy world.
Story of a lotto winner:
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/...antasy-1.699613
"If there is anything worse than me having an attitude, it's me having an attitude and money"
The guy was an Island ledgend!
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/...antasy-1.699613
"If there is anything worse than me having an attitude, it's me having an attitude and money"
The guy was an Island ledgend!
Ah, the Poor Man's Tax.
I was homeless and working hourly retail jobs in 2002. I've eliminated my debt and increased my wealth significantly by NOT buying things like lottery tickets. You'll notice that people with a financial background and the wealthy don't buy them. That should mean something to anyone with critical thinking skills.
I was homeless and working hourly retail jobs in 2002. I've eliminated my debt and increased my wealth significantly by NOT buying things like lottery tickets. You'll notice that people with a financial background and the wealthy don't buy them. That should mean something to anyone with critical thinking skills.
The vast majority of people at the bottom of society are their because of mental illness or drug abuse. Lotto tickets, alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs are what they spend their money on.
If one of those tickets won he would buy one of the above with the winnings.
If one of those tickets won he would buy one of the above with the winnings.
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Lottery is a tax on poor people.
Why is the OP surprised?
Or a stupid tax.
Lottery is a tax on poor people.
Why is the OP surprised?
Or a stupid tax.
The thrill or thought of thrill may be well worth it. Don't judge to make yourself feel better.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
The vast majority of people at the bottom of society are their because of mental illness or drug abuse. Lotto tickets, alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs are what they spend their money on.
If one of those tickets won he would buy one of the above with the winnings.
Yep..many are just mentally ill, some with drug or alcohol problems. In days gone by those folks would have lived in "flop houses"..you know..the ones you see in old movies. 50 cents for a bed and a roof with a bathroom at the end of the hall. Not much but better than the streets.
Uniform zoning and safety regulations put all the "flop houses" out of business. Fire sprinkler systems, mandatory elevators and private bathrooms became a nation wide zoning requirement.
Mother Teresa tried to reopen an old hotel in NYC for the homeless a few years ago..and got no-where, even though she had the funding..the local zoning regulations required for the property just killed the project. Pity.
Yes, some homeless types are scammers, but still have pity for them...but for the grace of God, goes I.
The vast majority of people at the bottom of society are their because of mental illness or drug abuse. Lotto tickets, alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs are what they spend their money on.
If one of those tickets won he would buy one of the above with the winnings.
Yep..many are just mentally ill, some with drug or alcohol problems. In days gone by those folks would have lived in "flop houses"..you know..the ones you see in old movies. 50 cents for a bed and a roof with a bathroom at the end of the hall. Not much but better than the streets.
Uniform zoning and safety regulations put all the "flop houses" out of business. Fire sprinkler systems, mandatory elevators and private bathrooms became a nation wide zoning requirement.
Mother Teresa tried to reopen an old hotel in NYC for the homeless a few years ago..and got no-where, even though she had the funding..the local zoning regulations required for the property just killed the project. Pity.
Yes, some homeless types are scammers, but still have pity for them...but for the grace of God, goes I.
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Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.
Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?
No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....
They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.
Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.
My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.
Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?
No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....
They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.
Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.
My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.
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...stupig guy cashes in cans buys a lottery ticket and the state gets the money ...quite likely for social services.
...stupid guy cashes in cans and buys booze or drugs and the state gets nothing. Then you and me pay for the social services.
I guess the stupid guy is working to support himself after all eh. Keep buying tickets stupid people cause I like when you help pay your own way.
...stupid guy cashes in cans and buys booze or drugs and the state gets nothing. Then you and me pay for the social services.
I guess the stupid guy is working to support himself after all eh. Keep buying tickets stupid people cause I like when you help pay your own way.
You can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The thrill or thought of thrill may be well worth it. Don't judge to make yourself feel better.
If the thrill of scratching lottery tickets is at the expense of someone's well-being (like having a place to stay, for instance), that person definitely needs help.
I don't often see people buying lottery tickets responsibly, but I know some friends that just buy a few for Christmas cards. They're otherwise fiscally responsible. To them, it's just a gimmick, not a way of feeding a desire or a hope to strike it rich.
For your perusal, the clinical definition of compulsive gambling:
www.ncrg.org/sites/default/files/uploads/docs/white_papers/ncrg_wpdsm5_may2013.pdf
The thrill or thought of thrill may be well worth it. Don't judge to make yourself feel better.
If the thrill of scratching lottery tickets is at the expense of someone's well-being (like having a place to stay, for instance), that person definitely needs help.
I don't often see people buying lottery tickets responsibly, but I know some friends that just buy a few for Christmas cards. They're otherwise fiscally responsible. To them, it's just a gimmick, not a way of feeding a desire or a hope to strike it rich.
For your perusal, the clinical definition of compulsive gambling:
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.
Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?
No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....
They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.
Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.
My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.
A lot of the homeless males are vets. A lot of the homeless females are domestic abuse victims.
It's easy to judge them because it's very easy to just label them and pretend they do not exist.
It takes guts to actually try and know what is going on in reality.
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ramammoth
Next time, try talking to him.
Why? So you can smell his terrible breath, hear his sob story, or have him attempt to scam you out of some money?
No thanks. I don't socialize with homeless people. Don't care about them.....
They are all ex-cons, all drug/alcohol addicts, etc.
Many are mentally ill too and not bad people just ill.
My wife works in hospital and reads the charts and works a lot with them in psych ward no other therapists will do. The charts are awful.
A lot of the homeless males are vets. A lot of the homeless females are domestic abuse victims.
It's easy to judge them because it's very easy to just label them and pretend they do not exist.
It takes guts to actually try and know what is going on in reality.
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
You can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
True statement. I can't win. That's also more money I can put into my investments, which will win.
You can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
True statement. I can't win. That's also more money I can put into my investments, which will win.
I don't hand out cash, but I'll buy meals, clothes, shoes, fill gas tanks, etc.
If I'm donating, I want to set the terms. That way I know they are not buying a bottle or a hit of their chemical addiction.
The ones who are really down and out will usually take the item. Those hustling for $$$ turn me down.
It helps sift the professional beggars from the truly needy.
If I'm donating, I want to set the terms. That way I know they are not buying a bottle or a hit of their chemical addiction.
The ones who are really down and out will usually take the item. Those hustling for $$$ turn me down.
It helps sift the professional beggars from the truly needy.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
If they had hit for, lets say a million...how long do you think it would be before they were totally broke once again?
A documentary of them spending the winnings would be fascinating.
Actually, several stories have been done on people who win big giveaways, including lotteries.
They generally end up broke again very, very quickly....
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poor...ies-in-history/
http://www.rd.com/slideshows/13-things-lottery-winners/
If they had hit for, lets say a million...how long do you think it would be before they were totally broke once again?
A documentary of them spending the winnings would be fascinating.
Actually, several stories have been done on people who win big giveaways, including lotteries.
They generally end up broke again very, very quickly....
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poor...ies-in-history/
http://www.rd.com/slideshows/13-things-lottery-winners/
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He could be lucky and win.. The chances are small but it can happen.
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: dishdude
If they had hit for, lets say a million...how long do you think it would be before they were totally broke once again?
A documentary of them spending the winnings would be fascinating.
Actually, several stories have been done on people who win big giveaways, including lotteries.
They generally end up broke again very, very quickly....
Yep. Even the folks who win a few hundred dollars in the lottery or casino quickly burn that money gambling again.
Pay-at-the-pump gas is handy so I don't have to stand behind the people who buy 5 tickets, win $20, buy 20 tickets, win $5, buy 5 tickets, and then have nothing other than 30 scraps of paper.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
If they had hit for, lets say a million...how long do you think it would be before they were totally broke once again?
A documentary of them spending the winnings would be fascinating.
Actually, several stories have been done on people who win big giveaways, including lotteries.
They generally end up broke again very, very quickly....
Yep. Even the folks who win a few hundred dollars in the lottery or casino quickly burn that money gambling again.
Pay-at-the-pump gas is handy so I don't have to stand behind the people who buy 5 tickets, win $20, buy 20 tickets, win $5, buy 5 tickets, and then have nothing other than 30 scraps of paper.
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