Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by KrisZ
I just find it amazing how many people that take the flu shot every year want it mandatory for everyone else. If you take the shot, why on earth would you care if others got it or not, you should be safe, right?
If you don't feel safe to the point you want to force this thing on others, it means the shot is not really that effective. And to use guilt and shame tactics to get your point across? That right there is a red flag.
No flu shots for me or my immediate family, especially my children. There are some nasty chemicals and mercury in these shots that can wreck havoc in young bodies if you continue injecting them every single year. Yes, I'm that selfish.
I think that's because the level of trust in the medical community is down for whatever reason. This happened with measles too. It was optional for a long time and thought to be stamped out. But then more and more people stopped vaccinating their kids for whatever reasons and then all it took was for one person to start an infection where many kids weren't vaccinated. Then a few communities passed laws that required all kids going to school get vaccinated or they wouldn't be allowed in. Then vaccination rates went up. As of yet, aside from baseless theories like mercury and nasty chemicals, the anti vaxxers really have no scientific evidence to stand upon. Remember, the scientific method is based on repeatable, reproducible results. The laws may be due to the fact that it turns out that people aren't very good at determining what's a real danger and what's not or how to properly evaluate risk. That's probably why there are seat belt laws where there weren't any before.
Ultimately I of course don't really care if you live or die. It's just that it's human nature to try and offer people helpful advice. But to be so suspicious of other people's motive, I think that's even worse.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Data, data everywhere, but not a thought to think.
great post, wolf.
the flu shot threads are always comical -- in the sense that there are many that really believe that the shot can give you the flu.any thinking person knows that this is impossible.if one does get the flu, say, one or two months later, it's highly likely that it's from a mutation of one of the 3 strains involved in the serum. these strains mutate so rapidly, that the people that develop the serum cannot provide protection against a strain that did not yet exist, at the time of mass production.
one poster states that there is mercury in the serum. I'd love to see data on that claim.
a friend of a friend stated, last year, that she had no time to get the shot.in many areas, one can get a shot at a pharmacy.that excuse is so lame, that it's funny.spend a little less time "yapping" on the 'net -- then you'll have time to get the shot.
I've been getting it for many years, and have gotten the flu twice, in the last 20 years.is this due to the shot? I'm guessing that it helped, to some degree. getting rest, avoiding sick people when possible, keeping your immune system healthy, and some luck all help in avoiding the flu.
one stated that he was sick for many weeks. that's not the flu,as it will last 5,7, maybe 10 days.
it's amazing/amusing how much bee ess that some believe about this vaccine.
at any rate, if you don't want to get the shot, for whatever reason, don't get it. that's cool.but, don't use excuses like no time, or mercury in the serum, or some other bee ess as excuses. you will only look foolish.read some objective material on the topic.
the last line of wolf's post says it all. that should be a sig line.
have a good day, all. lots of football, and baseball on today. enjoy.
