Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: mr_diy
Originally Posted By: Greasymechtech
But they have no metal end-caps....laughing at Fram haters.
Some would squash but still work fine.
So, the bypass and ADBV are now non issues, built into the mount, cap, pump, block... or elsewhere.
I much prefer cartridges over canisters and wish Honda had made the switch like Toyota. Let's you inspect filter before and after OCI. Construction quality is much better due to being visible. Remoting the bypass means the filter crud isn't flushed through when a bypass occurs. No more concern over the specs and function of the bypass or ADBV. Changes can be less messy than canisters (bottom mounted versus side engine). Once production volume of cartridges get established should see lower prices due to simpler construction. Only ecore has given cartridges a bad rap.
There are millions of Ecotec 2.2 and 2.4 engines in use, yet their filter still costs more than spin on filters for other common engines.
It makes me think that cartridge filter prices may go down, however, I think they will never be equal to the price of spin on filters.
Maybe ecore carry a premium to cover the claims of damaged engines when they fall apart.
The relativity low volume cartridge for the 3.5L Olds engine has several available ~$3 at rockauto. Retail they tend to carry a premium.
Originally Posted By: mr_diy
Originally Posted By: Greasymechtech
But they have no metal end-caps....laughing at Fram haters.
Some would squash but still work fine.
So, the bypass and ADBV are now non issues, built into the mount, cap, pump, block... or elsewhere.
I much prefer cartridges over canisters and wish Honda had made the switch like Toyota. Let's you inspect filter before and after OCI. Construction quality is much better due to being visible. Remoting the bypass means the filter crud isn't flushed through when a bypass occurs. No more concern over the specs and function of the bypass or ADBV. Changes can be less messy than canisters (bottom mounted versus side engine). Once production volume of cartridges get established should see lower prices due to simpler construction. Only ecore has given cartridges a bad rap.
There are millions of Ecotec 2.2 and 2.4 engines in use, yet their filter still costs more than spin on filters for other common engines.
It makes me think that cartridge filter prices may go down, however, I think they will never be equal to the price of spin on filters.
Maybe ecore carry a premium to cover the claims of damaged engines when they fall apart.
The relativity low volume cartridge for the 3.5L Olds engine has several available ~$3 at rockauto. Retail they tend to carry a premium.