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#881590 - 04/15/07 09:04 PM Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D?
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 7857
Loc: Illinois
I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard (aka Hy-Tran) fluid, otherwise known as "J20D".

Any one know of a substitute for this, from someone like Shell or Mystik?
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#881591 - 04/15/07 11:37 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
Don Stefanik Offline


Registered: 12/09/03
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What other suppliers do you use.
Any of the major oil companies ( Shell, Exxon, etc) will have generic hydraulic/transmission fluids.
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#881592 - 04/16/07 02:40 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Don Stefanik]
Steve S Offline


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Amsoil,Chevron,Shell,Scgaeffers,Valvoline.etc.
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#881593 - 04/16/07 06:10 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Steve S]
salesrep Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
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Loc: lllinois
Big R's, Farm fleet, rural king, most NAPA's in Central Il all carry a low priced universal tractor fluid that meets the jd specs.
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#881594 - 04/17/07 12:21 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: salesrep]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
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Loc: Illinois
Just to clarify...

All of these manufacturers/stores have the equivalent of *low-viscosity* Hy-Gard?

I'm not referring to the regular stuff...

If they all carry the equivalent of los-vis Hy-Gard, then what rock have I been under???


Edited by mrsilv04 (04/17/07 12:21 AM)
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#881595 - 04/17/07 12:35 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
salesrep Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
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Loc: lllinois
I misread. They very well may not have a low vis equiv.
I would think the local jobber would carry an equiv.
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#881596 - 04/18/07 03:12 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
doitmyself Offline


Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 5617
Loc: MI
Citgo has Lo-Temp Trans Gard that meets the J20D spec.. Not sure if there is a Mystic(Citgo) equivalent.

Amsoil and Chevron have single products that meet BOTH the C and D rating. Top notch products, but initial cost probably won't be less.

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#881597 - 05/01/07 06:35 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: doitmyself]
Wrehch Offline


Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 208
Loc: PA
Texas Refinery Corp's Special Low Temp Universal Torque Fluid meets the JD J20D spec. It has a -50 deg pour point so low temp operation shouldn't be a problem.

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#881598 - 09/18/07 01:17 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Wrehch]
marco246 Offline


Registered: 05/07/05
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Loc: Hawaii
Chevron "Synthetic All-Weather THF" meets JD J20C and J20D specs. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 44.7/9.5 cSt.

Chevron "THF W" meets J20D only. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 34.4/7.3 cSt.
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#881599 - 10/21/07 11:38 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: marco246]
ericgl Offline


Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 89
Loc: Houston
Shell's product is Donax TDL.

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#1024108 - 11/07/07 10:42 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
RWEST Offline


Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 1373
Loc: Somerset County, PA
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I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard

How much are they charging for it mrsilv04? Reason I ask is a guy at the TractorByNet forum said he paid some amazing amount, like $10/qt or something, and I just got some from my local J-D guy on Saturday for $12/gal for my X595. It's definitely J20D "Low-Vis/HyGard".
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#1118399 - 03/30/08 09:27 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: RWEST]
Neil Womack Offline


Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 718
Loc: Central Texas
Im curretly using Schaeffers Simplex in my 790. Works fine however not low vis. I did't I need low vis in Texas summer only use.
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#1118453 - 03/30/08 11:10 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Neil Womack]
TurboLuver Offline


Registered: 04/12/05
Posts: 1473
Loc: SW Ohio
I am using Amsoil Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil
SAE 5W-30 (ATH) in my JD lawn tractor. It meets the specs for the J20D fluid.

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#2161528 - 02/04/11 11:12 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
Down_South Offline


Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 38
Loc: NC
According to the Official John Deere service manual for Lawn Tractors LX255,LX266,LX277,LX2 (TM1754), You Can use a SAE 5W or 10W30 Oil (Synthetic or Mineral) or John Deere HY-GARDô J20C Oil. Its your choice. I had some HY-GARDô on the shelf in the garage that meets the J20D spec, but if I run out, its nice to know that I can use an SAE motor oil. I'd put a copy of the PDF on here if it was legal, but unfortunately I had to pay money to John Deere for it and I don't want to be sued for copyright stuff.

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#2169388 - 02/12/11 06:57 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
onion Offline


Registered: 02/04/07
Posts: 2097
Loc: kansastan
What's the application here?

For what it's worth, Deere does specify engine oil to be used as hydraulic fluid in quite a few applications- including machines that are far more expensive and powerful than lawn tractors. They'll often have a chart in the operator's manual showing a variety of engine oil viscosities and either standard or low-vis hyguard, depending on temperature range.

Case also uses engine oil in some of their skidsteer hydraulic systems. But they have an additional additive to put in with the 10w30.
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