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Posted By: andyd

40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 12:14 AM

Goes through my Farmboss like grease through a goose. I used a full tank bucking up a 30' cherry tree into 2' lengths. At least 4$. I mixed up a gallon of my usual 32:1 Valvoline universal in E 10 87 and the saw fired right up. The saw's performance is just as good as the Tru Fuel. 24$ vs about 3.25 $ and some mixing for equal performance.
Posted By: Warstud

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 12:22 AM

I personally would only buy it for my chainsaw since I only use it once in a blue moon.
Posted By: skyactiv

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 12:25 AM

Your better off finding boat gas if and when available near you if you want to save money on ethanol free fuel.
Posted By: rooflessVW

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 12:42 AM

I use it in my weed eater since I only use about a gallon a year.

My pressure washer absolute blows through fuel though... Not economically feasible to use a liter of Tru Fuel every time I fire it up.
Posted By: sasilverbullet

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 01:37 AM

I used Tru Fuel in a weed wacker that I thought was kaput, now it runs fantastic!
Posted By: Chris142

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Your better off finding boat gas if and when available near you if you want to save money on ethanol free fuel.
No such thing here. All gas is 10% ethanol. Even at the lake
Posted By: Linctex

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 02:52 AM

Find an airport with self-serve fuel pumps and get some 100LL AvGas. It never goes bad.
Posted By: HangFire

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 03:15 AM

Originally Posted By: andyd
Goes through my Farmboss like grease through a goose. I used a full tank bucking up a 30' cherry tree into 2' lengths. At least 4$. I mixed up a gallon of my usual 32:1 Valvoline universal in E 10 87 and the saw fired right up. The saw's performance is just as good as the Tru Fuel. 24$ vs about 3.25 $ and some mixing for equal performance.

If you use your chainsaw constantly, you may not need engineered or e-free fuel.

If you ever store it for a few months with E10, even with Stabil, then you'll need it (but it will be too late)

Is yours an MS290 or 291? I never could figure out why the chainsaw aficionados hated on the 290 so much until I saw some heads-on comparisons. While reliable, it's heavy, but the real problem was that it was a 2.9HP saw rated by Stihl at 3.4HP. I picked up an old Husky 55 (which is also rated at 3.4HP) and it will cut circles around my 2 buddy's 290's.

I don't know about it's early life, but it needed a new carb when I got it, and it will never see E10 from here on out.
Posted By: pbm

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By: HangFire
Originally Posted By: andyd
Goes through my Farmboss like grease through a goose. I used a full tank bucking up a 30' cherry tree into 2' lengths. At least 4$. I mixed up a gallon of my usual 32:1 Valvoline universal in E 10 87 and the saw fired right up. The saw's performance is just as good as the Tru Fuel. 24$ vs about 3.25 $ and some mixing for equal performance.

If you use your chainsaw constantly, you may not need engineered or e-free fuel.

If you ever store it for a few months with E10, even with Stabil, then you'll need it (but it will be too late)

Is yours an MS290 or 291? I never could figure out why the chainsaw aficionados hated on the 290 so much until I saw some heads-on comparisons. While reliable, it's heavy, but the real problem was that it was a 2.9HP saw rated by Stihl at 3.4HP. I picked up an old Husky 55 (which is also rated at 3.4HP) and it will cut circles around my 2 buddy's 290's.

I don't know about it's early life, but it needed a new carb when I got it, and it will never see E10 from here on out.


I have nothing but trouble with 2 stroke equipment....my weedwacker won't start...my chainsaw won't start....Where do I get this miracle stuff?
Posted By: JHZR2

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Warstud
I personally would only buy it for my chainsaw since I only use it once in a blue moon.


+1. I bought Stihl fuel which I think is the same stuff, for the chainsaw. Regular premium gas for all my other 2 stroke equipment, even if it sits through the winter. Never any issues.

I may run the stihl fuel I still have in stock in my stick edger as it is onky used a few times a year, now that I think of it...
Posted By: Superflan

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 05:18 AM

I use « SP95 » (95% octane, 5% heptane), equivalent to MON 85 for you US folks. Ethanol free. Mixed with random JASO FC/FD oils at 1:50 or 1:32, depending of the severity of the usage. Never had a problem in 10 years.
Posted By: FowVay

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 08:12 AM

My preference for these fancy store bought fuels is VP racing fuel. It still sells a true 128 oz. gallon of product. Tru fuel is 110 ounces which they advertise as being a gallon. This is just wrong.

I have access to avgas so I generally just buy 20 gallons of it at the start of summer and run it in all of my 4-cycle engines ($3,85/gallon yesterday). I use VP racing fuel to mix my own 2-cycle pre-mix for my blower, weed eater and chain saw.

I simply don't have fueling issues with my OPE. Even my old (1970's era) front tine Gilson tiller still starts with a few pulls of the cord after sitting for years.
Posted By: FowVay

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 03/11/18 08:14 AM

My preference for these fancy store bought fuels is VP racing fuel. It still sells a true 128 oz. gallon of product. Tru fuel is 110 ounces which they advertise as being a gallon. This is just wrong.

I have access to avgas so I generally just buy 20 gallons of it at the start of summer and run it in all of my 4-cycle engines ($3,85/gallon yesterday). I use VP racing fuel to mix my own 2-cycle pre-mix for my blower, weed eater and chain saw.

I simply don't have fueling issues with my OPE. Even my old (1970's era) front tine Gilson tiller still starts with a few pulls of the cord after sitting for years.
Posted By: Broo

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 05/01/18 01:26 PM

Since my old 2 stroke Lawn Boy mower died a few years ago, I use much less 2 cycle fuel.

What I did is buy a 40:1 Trufuel can since that's the mix I need and when depleted I mix new fuel in that can. This way I don't have to keep a full gallon jug for my limited needs.
Posted By: CT8

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 05/07/18 02:51 AM

Originally Posted By: andyd
Goes through my Farmboss like grease through a goose. I used a full tank bucking up a 30' cherry tree into 2' lengths. At least 4$. I mixed up a gallon of my usual 32:1 Valvoline universal in E 10 87 and the saw fired right up. The saw's performance is just as good as the Tru Fuel. 24$ vs about 3.25 $ and some mixing for equal performance.
Trufuel is a scam.
Posted By: racin4ds

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 06/12/18 02:00 PM

TruFuel is a ripoff, I buy the VP when NAPA has it on sale, usually get a pretty good price on it. It runs great in my son's KX65 2 stroke race bike.

I scored a 5 gallon can of VP fuels 93 E-0 last month at rural king for $30 so now all my OPE is running that.
Posted By: 5AcresAndAFool

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/04/18 07:41 PM

Doesn't AV gas have lead in it? I don't want to burn leaded.
Posted By: turtlevette

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/04/18 10:26 PM

Ethanol phobia can be expensive.
Posted By: 5AcresAndAFool

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/05/18 04:00 AM

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Ethanol phobia can be expensive.



Ethanol phobia is overblown to a point, however there are issues related to ethanol in infrequently used OPE. I have witnessed this first hand.
Posted By: turtlevette

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/05/18 04:14 AM

I have only one data point. An old chainsaw that fired up after a 10 years of sitting with gas in it.
Posted By: CT8

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/05/18 02:18 PM

Tru fuel is a true rip off.
Posted By: andyd

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/22/18 06:10 PM

The saw in question is a '77 Farmboss 041. Of all my 2 stroke OPE, it is the most reliable and always starts. I used to mix 2 gallons at a time and often it was 2 yrs old before I finished it. The weed wackers and the Mantis are more problematic. As a result, I only mix a gallon of 32:1 at a time. I just mixed a new gallon and poured the end of the previous gallon into the Tru Fuel can. Yesterday, I used all the 2 month old stuff in my Lawn Boy mower. It ran fine.
Posted By: Warlord

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/23/18 03:29 AM

I use tru fuel for my last tank of the season in all my small ope and then don’t bother to winterize anything or summerize in the case of my ice auger. I also will recommend these types of fuels to people who have no idea what they’re doing and are likely to eventually run straight gas and then say 2 strokes are junk.
Posted By: CT8

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 07/26/18 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Warlord
I use tru fuel for my last tank of the season in all my small ope and then don’t bother to winterize anything or summerize in the case of my ice auger. I also will recommend these types of fuels to people who have no idea what they’re doing and are likely to eventually run straight gas and then say 2 strokes are junk.
I have an 18 year old husky 324 or 5 weed eater [and blower] that until2011 did 3 acres fire control and lawn and 2 rentals and it still runs today with pump gas and bulk 2 stroke universal oil I buy from the lube distributer no magic Voo Doo I just hang it up until Spring and they both start right up in the spring if I use the choke and turn the ignition on. Marketing sure works.
Posted By: Warlord

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/02/18 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: Warlord
I use tru fuel for my last tank of the season in all my small ope and then don’t bother to winterize anything or summerize in the case of my ice auger. I also will recommend these types of fuels to people who have no idea what they’re doing and are likely to eventually run straight gas and then say 2 strokes are junk.
I have an 18 year old husky 324 or 5 weed eater [and blower] that until2011 did 3 acres fire control and lawn and 2 rentals and it still runs today with pump gas and bulk 2 stroke universal oil I buy from the lube distributer no magic Voo Doo I just hang it up until Spring and they both start right up in the spring if I use the choke and turn the ignition on. Marketing sure works.


Must be nice to have quality gas. You should see the slop our fuel turns into. Although since I moved to Alberta the problem seems much less severe.
Posted By: CT8

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/02/18 02:35 PM

I used Shell gas from the local station !0% alcohol.
Posted By: ragtoplvr

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/12/18 01:36 PM

We have a station that sells E0. I put one gallon in the car to flush the hose, then fill my cans. I have water tested it, and it is truly alcohol free. I mix a gallon at 50 to one and fill a tru fuel can, use in blower since it has a tiny catalitic converter in the muffle, so the literature says anyway. Then I add oil to 32 to one and use the rest of the can in the lawnboy and string trimmer.

Rod
Posted By: 78Caddy

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/24/18 03:21 AM

Here in Okla. we have stations around that sell alcohol-free gasoline. I only use it in my 2-cycles because of the whole fuel is your lubricant thing. I get the significantly cheaper ethanol blends for everything else. I will say I’ve used the premixed 40:1 and it works great. Not worth the price though, unless you live in an area that doesn’t sell alcohol-free fuel at the pump. I only got it because I was too lazy to go three miles down the road and mix my own.
Posted By: Surestick

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/24/18 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Warlord
Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: Warlord
I use tru fuel for my last tank of the season in all my small ope and then don’t bother to winterize anything or summerize in the case of my ice auger. I also will recommend these types of fuels to people who have no idea what they’re doing and are likely to eventually run straight gas and then say 2 strokes are junk.
I have an 18 year old husky 324 or 5 weed eater [and blower] that until2011 did 3 acres fire control and lawn and 2 rentals and it still runs today with pump gas and bulk 2 stroke universal oil I buy from the lube distributer no magic Voo Doo I just hang it up until Spring and they both start right up in the spring if I use the choke and turn the ignition on. Marketing sure works.


Must be nice to have quality gas. You should see the slop our fuel turns into. Although since I moved to Alberta the problem seems much less severe.


I think the lack of humidity in Alberta plays a big part in a lack of issues with fuel containing ethanol.
Posted By: billt460

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 08/30/18 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by CT8
Tru fuel is a true rip off.


I used to believe that as well... Until I started thinking about it. First off, I use very little fuel. I keep a small Honda generator and a Kohler powered pressure washer ready to run at all times. (Both are 4-stroke engines). I cannot buy ethanol free fuel anywhere near me. And my local airport won't allow you to pump LL/100 into anything but aircraft. So I either have to screw around with 10% ethanol pump gas, and then waste time and money spending money on additives treating it.

Or else I can simply go to my local Home Depot less than a mile down the road. And buy a can of Tru Fuel and be done with it. It's non ethanol, 93 octane, and has a 2 to 5 year shelf life. And all I have to do it pour it in the tank, and pull the cord. By the time I buy the gas can, drive to the station and buy the gas. Then buy the Sta-Bil and the Ethanol Shield, (Which the manual tells you to use if you're running ethanol based fuel). Mix it, and hope I don't make a mess and / or spill anything, it's cheaper and a whole lot easier to simply buy the Tru Fuel. And it's better fuel.

If I had a lawn to mow every week, and was going through a half a gallon or more each time, then it's a different story. But for as much as I use my 2 pieces of power equipment now, I'm lucky to burn a half a gallon a year. For that it just doesn't pay to screw around mixing and blending gas. It's a PITA. Having done both, open and pour is much better.
Posted By: BrianF

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 09/04/18 06:51 AM

I use Truefuel for winter storage of my string trimmer now. Was not overly impressed with spring start up using my regular ethanol blended gas/oil/stabil mix. I run just enough in the tank to flush the carb and shut her down. These last few seasons she starts right up and runs great. Then I make a 5 liter jerry of gas/oil/stabil mix to last me the summer.

My chainsaw now just uses truefuel as it rips very little every season (maybe half a tank) and I became rather tired of draining the tank/carb for extended periods of it sitting. If I need it for lots of cutting then she can get the gas/oil mix.

I will be running some truefuel in my old Lawnboy hand held blower this winter as I will store it inside and run it occasionally to dust off the snow on the sidewalk.
Posted By: CT8

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 09/30/18 11:16 PM

I go through 5 gallons of 2 stroke a year. For the blower and weed wacker.
Posted By: rshaw125

Re: 40:1 Tru Fuel - 10/16/18 06:05 PM

I just go my local Sunoco and buy their 93 no ethanol gas. $3.59 a US gallon. For Winter a splash of Stabil. Zero issues.
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