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Posted By: redhat

New ATVs? - 08/27/18 03:06 PM

Would like to buy a new ATV. Thinking Yamaha. Some recommendations from friends have revered them as about the best out there. Come to think of it, I can't say anyone I know has ever had anything bad to say about a Yamaha.

I like Polaris but don't think they're the greatest. Have a '95 Magnum, but it is too old to reliably count on for long trail rides.

Looking at the 2018 450 Kodiak. I don't think I need anything bigger engine wise, not trying to race.

Honda ATVs good? Or is this an example of just riding on a brand's perception?

I aim to trail ride, and potentially long distances -- I am in Western New York but would love to go and ride the Hatfield McCoy trails on a week long adventure at some point. I like utility as I would like the machine to be able to do work around the house. Also, I want EFI. I do not want to screw around with a carb on an ATV anymore. Power steering I think would be a nice luxury too.
Posted By: sw99

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 03:28 PM

The Kodiak is super solid and Yamaha knows their stuff! You really get a great machine for a very fair price. I would take one of the Honda all day long.
Posted By: Stevie

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 04:03 PM

Sure Yamaha Kodiak has a great machine base $5999. No locking differential and can't go from 2 to 4 wheel drive on the fly.

The Polaris sportsman 450 has larger 497 cc engine, much more travel in the suspension and on-demand true 4x4. The 2018 has many improvements, 50% stronger axles and cv joints, beefed up transmission and engine now fully enclosed so no heat on legs. Much more storage on Sportsman and has the third headlight.

If you can find a 2018 Sportsman 450 or 570 they both have $1000 rebates off of their $5999 and $6699 prices.


The Honda 420 has a solid axle, not independent suspension unless you go for the very expensive one. A small machine and very harsh ride.

If you want power steering pretty much add $900 to any model. Polaris has the most powerful and best power steering.


If you test ride them all I'm sure you will find the Polaris has the Cadillac ride.
Posted By: fenixguy

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 04:33 PM

I've been out of the ATV loop for a while now but Honda ATVs were always great. They are a no-frills machine that will last a lifetime if they're as good as the ones in the 90's and early 2000's.

I've had older Arctic Cats (just kept finding good deals) and have a 2003 500 4x4 now and it's solid as a rock. All of them have used Suzuki engines and transmissions and have been 100% dead on reliable. I have no idea how the current generation fairs.

Actually I've never heard of any of the major brands being "bad". I'd pick based on what local dealer you like the best.

If I were to spend the money today, it would probably be a Honda. I've ridden every brand and I always liked them the best. Again, I'm really out of the loop on new models.
Posted By: JTK

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 05:47 PM

Talk about being out of the loop. My last ATV was a 1985 Yamaha 225dx 3-wheeler I had until about 1989. Yamahas have always been nice machines.
Posted By: Miller88

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 06:20 PM

I don't know about new, but I've been thinking about getting an older 4x4 ATV for myself.
Posted By: redhat

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 07:37 PM

I completely rebuild my '95 Magnum that had spent the better part of it's last 12 years outside. It runs good, but either has something that when it gets wet shorts out ignition or perhaps I have the float adjusted too low and I'm running out of fuel on hills. Got to narrow it down.

I love it's simplicity, but it really beat me up riding this weekend. I just want something I can hop on and go or decided an hour ahead of time that I'm riding for the day.


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Posted By: skyactiv

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 08:18 PM

Where I live, sales of new ATV's fell off a cliff and have been replaced by side by sides/Razors.
Some people think Honda makes more reliable ATV's because they have a good reputation with their cars.
In reality, you cant go wrong with any Japanese brand, Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki, so get what you like.
Posted By: Kawiguy454

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevie
Sure Yamaha Kodiak has a great machine base $5999. No locking differential and can't go from 2 to 4 wheel drive on the fly.

The Polaris sportsman 450 has larger 497 cc engine, much more travel in the suspension and on-demand true 4x4. The 2018 has many improvements, 50% stronger axles and cv joints, beefed up transmission and engine now fully enclosed so no heat on legs. Much more storage on Sportsman and has the third headlight.

If you can find a 2018 Sportsman 450 or 570 they both have $1000 rebates off of their $5999 and $6699 prices.


The Honda 420 has a solid axle, not independent suspension unless you go for the very expensive one. A small machine and very harsh ride.

If you want power steering pretty much add $900 to any model. Polaris has the most powerful and best power steering.


If you test ride them all I'm sure you will find the Polaris has the Cadillac ride.






This analysis is spot on with regard to Utility ATV's Honda are workhorse but a brick to ride. In contrast my buddy's Polaris rode like a cloud and always felt well planted and stable. I don't usually go for belt driven but that Polaris was alright.

Sport ATV's are a different story ...the Honda's were always prized for their awesome handling and sharp power. But Yamaha was king of durability. My Raptor 700 was loads of fun. :-)
Posted By: Recalculating

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 08:39 PM

I have two ATVs. Both stored under cover until the need to ride. Was just on my 2002 Suzuki Vinson 500 Auto 4WD this a.m. going through some low ground on one of the lots that floods a bit when we get lots of rain. Feels sturdy under you. It goes as fast as I ever want to go. 4X4 is amazing. Winched and has excellent pulling power in Low.

Funny as this may be, I have a 1990 Honda Fourtrax 200 2WD chain driven with the little cover over the storage on the back to putter around the property and mostly used to pull lawn implements and cart. Tires don't tear up the lawn. Starts and goes and goes. Maybe look like Magilla Gorilla on it but at my age, I don't care. My wife still at least likes me.

Truly think ATV selection and use is all about upkeep with maintenance regardless the make and model.Too many used great ATVs out there to purchase new at the prices they are asking.

Your guess on the carburetor float adjustment would be my guess too. Wire shorts in a NY ATV left outside requires a lot of patience tracing continuity. Get a wiring diagram and have at. With the look of those photos, you have a handle on it with seeing real nice work done.

Neighbors have Yamaha and Polaris. They like theirs too.

Find a maintained 450 - 500 ATV and keep it fresh in tires and drive line. Trail riding with a crew is lots of fun when you have the confidence that the machine will get you to the destination.

Posted By: Onetor

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 09:07 PM

I'm waiting for the three wheel version to return! lol
Posted By: dirtymudder

Re: New ATVs? - 08/27/18 10:16 PM

I bought 3 Honda ranchers in 2000. Two of them have over 5000 miles on them and one has 7500 miles on it. If I was to have one I really like the Rincon but it does not have power steering available. I would probably do the Rubicon with independent rear suspension and power steering. The 3 Hondas I have now have been pretty much bullet proof
Posted By: Slick17601

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: JTK
Talk about being out of the loop. My last ATV was a 1985 Yamaha 225dx 3-wheeler I had until about 1989. Yamahas have always been nice machines.


That brings back memories, I had a 1984 225DX that I put enough miles on to wear out 2 sets of rear bearings. I rode the daylights out of that thing!
Posted By: Nick1994

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 02:17 AM

I donít know anything about modern ATVs but my 2005 Honda Rancher has been fantastic. 2 years ago I had my mechanic rebuild the carb because I let it sit too long. It runs great. I donít use it much anymore though. 3000 miles the first 5-6 years and 300 miles maybe since then.
Posted By: redhat

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 02:40 PM

Thank you. The new Polaris models sure look nice. Maybe my perceived quality issues are just incorrect? Are Polaris reliable?

In looking up online reviews, many seem to sure mention the ride quality of the Polaris as being better than the other makes.
Posted By: kawie_guy

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 04:13 PM

I am in Utah, home of the most extensive trail systems in the US. (Oh, and we also have Moab, the offroad capital of the world). Atvs are a way of life out here. I am in an atv club that has a wide variety of machines, and we ride together once a month. I personally trail ride two times per week, and average about 3000 miles per year. There isn't much that I haven't seen when it comes to atvs. I have owned a wide variety going all the way back to the first quad ever made...the 1983 Suzuki LT125.

I have owned two Yamahas, and several friends and family have had them as well. My feelings on Yamaha are that they are well made atvs. However, the Grizzly and Kodiak have historically always had too short of a wheelbase for the seat height. They feel like they are wanting to roll over. But, that has been improved on the new ones, and the Kodiak in particular is now lower and wider. If I were buying a Yamaha today, I'd definitely get the limited edition Kodiak which has the locker.

Honda. Who hasn't ridden one? They are all over out here. Their niche is reliability, gear driven, and good resale value. However, they are all severely underpowered, and the gear driven tranny is button operated on most models. I hate it. Also, the tranny will most likely total out the machine if it ever breaks out of warranty. CVTs are quicker operating, and are cheap to fix.

Polaris..easily the most broken down atv I've encountered. And some of their designs (like the ebs, adc, and battery placement, just to name a few) qualify for some of the most boneheaded engineering in mankind's history. There has not been one group ride this year in our club where there wasn't a Polaris that broke something. Several atv rental places based along our trail systems initially bought Polaris fleets. After realizing what a mistake that was from a servicing standpoint, almost all of them have replaced their Polaris fleets with another brand. Polaris' only niche as far as I can see are they have a cushy ride (if you are into that type of vague, sloshy feel), and they have cheap entry-level vehicles with good rebates. They also have lots of storage compartments, and a third headlight.

Kawasaki.... as my name implies, I am a Kawie fan. Its my current atv that I ride the most. I've got 16,000 miles on it, and I've spent less than $300 fixing things that I didn't break myself. And still, I get a smile everytime I ride it. It's the only Japanese brand to offer a vtwin. You may not need the power of a vtwin, but once you ride one, it's near impossible to go back to a single cylinder quad. In my opinion, if you want to trail ride, you've got to buy a quad that will motivate you to get out and ride it because it's FUN to ride. If you buy something that doesn't excite you, chances are you will get bored with it eventually.
Downsides to Kawie are they don't have many options anymore. You can either get a 300cc 2wd machine, or a top of the line 750cc 4wd. Their 750 is a handful for a beginner, but not near as big and heavy as a comparable Polaris or Can Am.

Can Am....
They are kind of the enigma. Some people I know love them, others curse them. If you get a good one, reliability seems good. But if you get a bad one, be prepared to use your warranty a lot.
Their niche is definitely horse power. They win the hp wars in every engine size.
I also really love their rear end suspension design. It combines the sporty feel of a solid axle with the plushness of an irs.
They also offer some great prices on their entry level 570cc base models.
Other than Kawie, Can Am is the only other brand that I find exhilarating to ride. Even their smaller engines like the 570 have some serious acceleration. I just wish they'd improve their quality control, and not charge an arm and a leg for oem parts.

There's my long winded breakdown. Whatever you do, go test ride it before you buy it. Quads are very hard to predict which one you're going to like best just by looking at stat sheets. You really need to feel it in the flesh.
Posted By: JTK

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Slick17601
Originally Posted By: JTK
Talk about being out of the loop. My last ATV was a 1985 Yamaha 225dx 3-wheeler I had until about 1989. Yamahas have always been nice machines.


That brings back memories, I had a 1984 225DX that I put enough miles on to wear out 2 sets of rear bearings. I rode the daylights out of that thing!


Same here!! 2 sets of rear bearings. Several sets of tires, new forks at one point. Pretty sure I broke the recoil start rope a few times too. That thing was a bugger to pull start if the 10sec worth of E-start couldn't do it or a bump start couldn't do it.

Mine had what sounded like a rod knock later on, but it still ran like a top.

Never had an issue with the shaft drive or rear suspension.
Posted By: dblshock

Re: New ATVs? - 08/28/18 09:07 PM

I run similar terrain to you here in WI...most important issue is to get back home and alot of that is not only the machine but the implements you'll carry..I also ride mostly solo or with no more than one partner, I don't eat dust. here are some important equipment items I carry.

More Power Puller

100FT. 4x25'

1871

cheyenne rig

flat

saw

Kolpin

Firstaid

glasses


I run Hondas, six of them currently from 2-'84 Trikes to '18 Rubicon including a Rincon and a couple Foremans...right now all around the loaded-up Rubicon is king...it's easily all you'll need....remember HQ ATV riding is usually below 15 mph.

By spec every Honda must float, very important when fording.

keep wheel weight/tire low as possible, try not to exceed the factory weight, lighter is even better.

I could go on for hours
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/04/18 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by kawie_guy
I am in Utah, home of the most extensive trail systems in the US. (Oh, and we also have Moab, the offroad capital of the world). Atvs are a way of life out here. I am in an atv club that has a wide variety of machines, and we ride together once a month. I personally trail ride two times per week, and average about 3000 miles per year. There isn't much that I haven't seen when it comes to atvs. I have owned a wide variety going all the way back to the first quad ever made...the 1983 Suzuki LT125.

I have owned two Yamahas, and several friends and family have had them as well. My feelings on Yamaha are that they are well made atvs. However, the Grizzly and Kodiak have historically always had too short of a wheelbase for the seat height. They feel like they are wanting to roll over. But, that has been improved on the new ones, and the Kodiak in particular is now lower and wider. If I were buying a Yamaha today, I'd definitely get the limited edition Kodiak which has the locker.

Honda. Who hasn't ridden one? They are all over out here. Their niche is reliability, gear driven, and good resale value. However, they are all severely underpowered, and the gear driven tranny is button operated on most models. I hate it. Also, the tranny will most likely total out the machine if it ever breaks out of warranty. CVTs are quicker operating, and are cheap to fix.

Polaris..easily the most broken down atv I've encountered. And some of their designs (like the ebs, adc, and battery placement, just to name a few) qualify for some of the most boneheaded engineering in mankind's history. There has not been one group ride this year in our club where there wasn't a Polaris that broke something. Several atv rental places based along our trail systems initially bought Polaris fleets. After realizing what a mistake that was from a servicing standpoint, almost all of them have replaced their Polaris fleets with another brand. Polaris' only niche as far as I can see are they have a cushy ride (if you are into that type of vague, sloshy feel), and they have cheap entry-level vehicles with good rebates. They also have lots of storage compartments, and a third headlight.

Kawasaki.... as my name implies, I am a Kawie fan. Its my current atv that I ride the most. I've got 16,000 miles on it, and I've spent less than $300 fixing things that I didn't break myself. And still, I get a smile everytime I ride it. It's the only Japanese brand to offer a vtwin. You may not need the power of a vtwin, but once you ride one, it's near impossible to go back to a single cylinder quad. In my opinion, if you want to trail ride, you've got to buy a quad that will motivate you to get out and ride it because it's FUN to ride. If you buy something that doesn't excite you, chances are you will get bored with it eventually.
Downsides to Kawie are they don't have many options anymore. You can either get a 300cc 2wd machine, or a top of the line 750cc 4wd. Their 750 is a handful for a beginner, but not near as big and heavy as a comparable Polaris or Can Am.

Can Am....
They are kind of the enigma. Some people I know love them, others curse them. If you get a good one, reliability seems good. But if you get a bad one, be prepared to use your warranty a lot.
Their niche is definitely horse power. They win the hp wars in every engine size.
I also really love their rear end suspension design. It combines the sporty feel of a solid axle with the plushness of an irs.
They also offer some great prices on their entry level 570cc base models.
Other than Kawie, Can Am is the only other brand that I find exhilarating to ride. Even their smaller engines like the 570 have some serious acceleration. I just wish they'd improve their quality control, and not charge an arm and a leg for oem parts.

There's my long winded breakdown. Whatever you do, go test ride it before you buy it. Quads are very hard to predict which one you're going to like best just by looking at stat sheets. You really need to feel it in the flesh.


Love your post!

I'm an occasional rider that started on a Yamaha 225DX trike, upgraded to a mid-80's Suzuki 2WD 250 sport quad and now own a Can-Am. The group I ride in used to be incredibly diverse. We had a Blaster, a Suzuki 450 sport, Grizzly, Polaris, Honda 250 (slower than paint drying) and the odd dirt bike. We'd go out in the trails and when you hit a straight the dirt bikes would take off and the quads would all kinda of [censored] around except for the Blaster, which would tear after the bikes.

Then one of the guys bought a Renegade. That was a game changer. Then another guy bought a Renegade. So then you had these two ridiculously fast and comfortable quads that would just walk everything else. My buddy with the 250 Honda was tired of riding a lumber wagon that couldn't catch the slowest quad in the group and so the year before last he upgraded to a Can-Am Outlander Max 850, the guy with the Grizzly bought an Outlander 650 and I bought my Outlander Max 1000R a few months after my buddy got his 850 because it was in stock and the price difference was negligible (was originally going to get an 850).

The folks with the Renegades seem to have gone through the teething issues (belts, water getting into the CVT..etc) as the more recent ones seem to be more problem-free. Will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens as the miles rack up, but the Outlanders have all been excellent so far.

I'm guessing our scenery is a bit different from yours though, LOL




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Posted By: irv

Re: New ATVs? - 09/04/18 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by kawie_guy
I am in Utah, home of the most extensive trail systems in the US. (Oh, and we also have Moab, the offroad capital of the world). Atvs are a way of life out here. I am in an atv club that has a wide variety of machines, and we ride together once a month. I personally trail ride two times per week, and average about 3000 miles per year. There isn't much that I haven't seen when it comes to atvs. I have owned a wide variety going all the way back to the first quad ever made...the 1983 Suzuki LT125.

I have owned two Yamahas, and several friends and family have had them as well. My feelings on Yamaha are that they are well made atvs. However, the Grizzly and Kodiak have historically always had too short of a wheelbase for the seat height. They feel like they are wanting to roll over. But, that has been improved on the new ones, and the Kodiak in particular is now lower and wider. If I were buying a Yamaha today, I'd definitely get the limited edition Kodiak which has the locker.

Honda. Who hasn't ridden one? They are all over out here. Their niche is reliability, gear driven, and good resale value. However, they are all severely underpowered, and the gear driven tranny is button operated on most models. I hate it. Also, the tranny will most likely total out the machine if it ever breaks out of warranty. CVTs are quicker operating, and are cheap to fix.

Polaris..easily the most broken down atv I've encountered. And some of their designs (like the ebs, adc, and battery placement, just to name a few) qualify for some of the most boneheaded engineering in mankind's history. There has not been one group ride this year in our club where there wasn't a Polaris that broke something. Several atv rental places based along our trail systems initially bought Polaris fleets. After realizing what a mistake that was from a servicing standpoint, almost all of them have replaced their Polaris fleets with another brand. Polaris' only niche as far as I can see are they have a cushy ride (if you are into that type of vague, sloshy feel), and they have cheap entry-level vehicles with good rebates. They also have lots of storage compartments, and a third headlight.

Kawasaki.... as my name implies, I am a Kawie fan. Its my current atv that I ride the most. I've got 16,000 miles on it, and I've spent less than $300 fixing things that I didn't break myself. And still, I get a smile everytime I ride it. It's the only Japanese brand to offer a vtwin. You may not need the power of a vtwin, but once you ride one, it's near impossible to go back to a single cylinder quad. In my opinion, if you want to trail ride, you've got to buy a quad that will motivate you to get out and ride it because it's FUN to ride. If you buy something that doesn't excite you, chances are you will get bored with it eventually.
Downsides to Kawie are they don't have many options anymore. You can either get a 300cc 2wd machine, or a top of the line 750cc 4wd. Their 750 is a handful for a beginner, but not near as big and heavy as a comparable Polaris or Can Am.

Can Am....
They are kind of the enigma. Some people I know love them, others curse them. If you get a good one, reliability seems good. But if you get a bad one, be prepared to use your warranty a lot.
Their niche is definitely horse power. They win the hp wars in every engine size.
I also really love their rear end suspension design. It combines the sporty feel of a solid axle with the plushness of an irs.
They also offer some great prices on their entry level 570cc base models.
Other than Kawie, Can Am is the only other brand that I find exhilarating to ride. Even their smaller engines like the 570 have some serious acceleration. I just wish they'd improve their quality control, and not charge an arm and a leg for oem parts.

There's my long winded breakdown. Whatever you do, go test ride it before you buy it. Quads are very hard to predict which one you're going to like best just by looking at stat sheets. You really need to feel it in the flesh.


Love your post!

I'm an occasional rider that started on a Yamaha 225DX trike, upgraded to a mid-80's Suzuki 2WD 250 sport quad and now own a Can-Am. The group I ride in used to be incredibly diverse. We had a Blaster, a Suzuki 450 sport, Grizzly, Polaris, Honda 250 (slower than paint drying) and the odd dirt bike. We'd go out in the trails and when you hit a straight the dirt bikes would take off and the quads would all kinda of [censored] around except for the Blaster, which would tear after the bikes.

Then one of the guys bought a Renegade. That was a game changer. Then another guy bought a Renegade. So then you had these two ridiculously fast and comfortable quads that would just walk everything else. My buddy with the 250 Honda was tired of riding a lumber wagon that couldn't catch the slowest quad in the group and so the year before last he upgraded to a Can-Am Outlander Max 850, the guy with the Grizzly bought an Outlander 650 and I bought my Outlander Max 1000R a few months after my buddy got his 850 because it was in stock and the price difference was negligible (was originally going to get an 850).

The folks with the Renegades seem to have gone through the teething issues (belts, water getting into the CVT..etc) as the more recent ones seem to be more problem-free. Will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens as the miles rack up, but the Outlanders have all been excellent so far.

I'm guessing our scenery is a bit different from yours though, LOL




Do the Renegades still have/use Visco-lock? That is the one thing that deterred me from getting one back in 05, there seemed to be too many issues concerning them like they would only engage if one could get the other wheel to spin. Not a great feature on a ATV, imo.

Glad to hear they have improved other things. I also remember them being quite pricey back then as well.

I purchased an 05 Yamaha Grizzly and although it didn't get a lot of miles on it before I sold it due to lack of use and everything else associated with that, it served me well and never caused me any grieve.

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Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/04/18 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by irv

Do the Renegades still have/use Visco-lock? That is the one thing that deterred me from getting one back in 05, there seemed to be too many issues concerning them like they would only engage if one could get the other wheel to spin. Not a great feature on a ATV, imo.

Glad to hear they have improved other things. I also remember them being quite pricey back then as well.

I purchased an 05 Yamaha Grizzly and although it didn't get a lot of miles on it before I sold it due to lack of use and everything else associated with that, it served me well and never caused me any grieve.



Yes, they still use the Visco-Lok auto-locking front diffs, which the Outlanders share. It is surprisingly capable in my experience.
Posted By: kawie_guy

Re: New ATVs? - 09/11/18 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL


I'm guessing our scenery is a bit different from yours though, LOL




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Posted By: kawie_guy

Re: New ATVs? - 09/11/18 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by irv

Do the Renegades still have/use Visco-lock? That is the one thing that deterred me from getting one back in 05, there seemed to be too many issues concerning them like they would only engage if one could get the other wheel to spin. Not a great feature on a ATV, imo.

Glad to hear they have improved other things. I also remember them being quite pricey back then as well.

I purchased an 05 Yamaha Grizzly and although it didn't get a lot of miles on it before I sold it due to lack of use and everything else associated with that, it served me well and never caused me any grieve.



Yes, they still use the Visco-Lok auto-locking front diffs, which the Outlanders share. It is surprisingly capable in my experience.


The new X3's just got push button lockers this year. Hopefully, they do the same for the Outlanders next year. If not, you can put aftermarket lockers on them.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/11/18 08:43 PM

kawie_guy: great scenery! How do you find the rocks affect tire life?
Posted By: kawie_guy

Re: New ATVs? - 09/11/18 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
kawie_guy: great scenery! How do you find the rocks affect tire life?


Thanks.
The rocks don't seem to be too bad on tire life, but the slickrock (sandstone) like in this pic below, is murder on tires. It's as rough as sandpaper. It has awesome traction though!
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Posted By: rsylvstr

Re: New ATVs? - 09/11/18 10:55 PM


Love my 2018 Polaris Sportsman 850 XP Touring.
Only thing I recommend is go for the 1000.

Originally Posted by redhat
Thank you. The new Polaris models sure look nice. Maybe my perceived quality issues are just incorrect? Are Polaris reliable?

In looking up online reviews, many seem to sure mention the ride quality of the Polaris as being better than the other makes.

Originally Posted by redhat
Thank you. The new Polaris models sure look nice. Maybe my perceived quality issues are just incorrect? Are Polaris reliable?

In looking up online reviews, many seem to sure mention the ride quality of the Polaris as being better than the other makes.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/12/18 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by kawie_guy
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
kawie_guy: great scenery! How do you find the rocks affect tire life?


Thanks.
The rocks don't seem to be too bad on tire life, but the slickrock (sandstone) like in this pic below, is murder on tires. It's as rough as sandpaper. It has awesome traction though!
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Beautiful shot yet again! What kind of duration are your rides?
Posted By: kawie_guy

Re: New ATVs? - 09/12/18 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by kawie_guy
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
kawie_guy: great scenery! How do you find the rocks affect tire life?


Thanks.
The rocks don't seem to be too bad on tire life, but the slickrock (sandstone) like in this pic below, is murder on tires. It's as rough as sandpaper. It has awesome traction though!
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Beautiful shot yet again! What kind of duration are your rides?


Thank you.
I would say I average 50 miles per ride. But some trails I do are better measured in hours than miles. I've spent 8 hours to go 9 miles in Moab before. On the flip side, I've done 167 miles in one day last spring. Used a full tank plus 5 extra gallons of gas.
Out here, you can ride as far as you want. We have interconnecting trail systems that allow riders to ride an atv from border to border of our state.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/12/18 01:34 AM

Sounds like ours. We sometimes do some roads and smooth paths which rack up the kilometres, but generally it's the time not the mileage. Obviously we weren't flying in those snow pics I posted. Beautiful country you have there to explore, and love the idea of an end-to-end state wide trail system, that's a fantastic resource! thumbsup
Posted By: irv

Re: New ATVs? - 09/12/18 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Sounds like ours. We sometimes do some roads and smooth paths which rack up the kilometres, but generally it's the time not the mileage. Obviously we weren't flying in those snow pics I posted. Beautiful country you have there to explore, and love the idea of an end-to-end state wide trail system, that's a fantastic resource! thumbsup


Are there still numerous clubs out there, overkill? I know back when I was atving, there was talk of doing something similar with the trail system in Ontario but due to the amount of clubs and their unwillingness to join or not be the big club themselves, nothing ever came of it.

In order to succeed they needed to be more like the OFSC but it's been years since I have been involved. Is the EOTA still around? I know they were the ones who maintained the trails down near our trailer in Marmora. Also the Haliburton club comes to mind and I know there were quite a few others out there as well.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 09/13/18 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by irv
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Sounds like ours. We sometimes do some roads and smooth paths which rack up the kilometres, but generally it's the time not the mileage. Obviously we weren't flying in those snow pics I posted. Beautiful country you have there to explore, and love the idea of an end-to-end state wide trail system, that's a fantastic resource! thumbsup


Are there still numerous clubs out there, overkill? I know back when I was atving, there was talk of doing something similar with the trail system in Ontario but due to the amount of clubs and their unwillingness to join or not be the big club themselves, nothing ever came of it.

In order to succeed they needed to be more like the OFSC but it's been years since I have been involved. Is the EOTA still around? I know they were the ones who maintained the trails down near our trailer in Marmora. Also the Haliburton club comes to mind and I know there were quite a few others out there as well.


Honestly, I have no idea. I ride with friends, mostly hunting camp stuff and farm land, so we don't interact with any clubs shrug
Posted By: CDX825

Re: New ATVs? - 09/13/18 06:54 AM

We have been riding Polaris ATVs for at least 25 years now. Can't say we have ever had any lemons. They have always been dependable machines and we ride some pretty rough terrain.
Posted By: ridgerunner

Re: New ATVs? - 09/14/18 10:59 PM

We used to head north and go and ride around the little town of Ompah. Awesome area for ATVs!
Posted By: Suzooku

Re: New ATVs? - 09/16/18 04:29 AM

IMO the Suzuki King Quad 400 is an often overlooked jewel. A trail riders dream for the money.
Posted By: wtd

Re: New ATVs? - 09/17/18 11:06 PM

I have a 2014 Honda Rancher 4x4 which has been a great ATV with no issues. My fiancee has a 2005 Honda Rancher 400 AT that has been rode hard and wrecked twice and it's not had any issues either. Her 16 year old son has a 2005 Honda TRX 250 EX that has been beat on and the engine is bullet proof. It did need a new clutch recently though.

Her 23 year old has a 2015 Polaris 900 Razr and has had a lot of things go wrong with it but he is pretty rough on it. He was rough on her 2005 Rancher too but it's survived better than his Razr has.
Posted By: KD0AXS

Re: New ATVs? - 09/27/18 12:24 AM

I got this Arctic Cat VLX 700 a few months ago. At right around $6,000 for a 700 4x4 ATV, I think this is probably the best value out there right now. This was actually a leftover 2017 model that the dealer had marked down to $4999. I've put this thing through its paces and gone through more challenging terrain than the average ATV owner ever does, and I love this machine so far.

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Posted By: sw99

Re: New ATVs? - 09/27/18 01:18 PM

Those Arctic Cats are great machines also! Find a Textron dealer since they recently bought AC.
Posted By: DoubleWasp

Re: New ATVs? - 10/04/18 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Onetor
I'm waiting for the three wheel version to return! lol


I hear you, but they have been legally banned as far as I know. You can still make your own using a dirt bike front end.
Posted By: DoubleWasp

Re: New ATVs? - 10/04/18 07:13 PM

I have a Can Am Outlander 800 EFI Max XT. Big 2-seater with extended wheelbase. I'm in love. Has way more than enough balls for whatever you might encounter. Hasn't given me any issues, but it came to me already modded with a bunch of heavy duty parts. We see mostly mud here in FL, and it has proven to be perfect for that. With straight mud, it is all about horsepower. Rides like a dream. Girlfriend has no complaints about the ride or anything for that matter. Sometimes I use it to move my boat on the trailer around.

The suspension is a work of some serious science. I've done a lot of things that made me think I was going to flip over or roll, only to find that it was not even close to its limit. Seems impossible to really upset it.

It's ugly, but only because PO covered it in ugly plasti-dip. I'm currently working on replacing the body panels.
Posted By: DriveHard

Re: New ATVs? - 10/18/18 12:40 PM

Did a similar analysis this exact time last year...came to the conclusion that the Can-Am Outlander was the bike for me. It has lived a good hard first year of life, and I love it! I would buy it again in a heartbeat if faced with the decision again today.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: New ATVs? - 10/18/18 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by DoubleWasp
I have a Can Am Outlander 800 EFI Max XT. Big 2-seater with extended wheelbase. I'm in love. Has way more than enough balls for whatever you might encounter. Hasn't given me any issues, but it came to me already modded with a bunch of heavy duty parts. We see mostly mud here in FL, and it has proven to be perfect for that. With straight mud, it is all about horsepower. Rides like a dream. Girlfriend has no complaints about the ride or anything for that matter. Sometimes I use it to move my boat on the trailer around.

The suspension is a work of some serious science. I've done a lot of things that made me think I was going to flip over or roll, only to find that it was not even close to its limit. Seems impossible to really upset it.

It's ugly, but only because PO covered it in ugly plasti-dip. I'm currently working on replacing the body panels.


Sounds like you have the same machine as my buddy on here slammds15. I was super impressed with his and that's why I bought mine. They are great machines thumbsup
Posted By: jongies3

Re: New ATVs? - 10/28/18 03:07 AM

Can't go wrong with Yamaha or Honda. Honda's are pretty basic and older tech but they're motto follows if it ain't broke don't fix it. The Rancher just finally got IRS a couple years ago after everyone else had been doing it for years. I have a 2013 Honda 400EX sport that's been virtually unchanged since it's introduction in 1999 except getting reverse in 2005. It's air cooled and simple which is what I like. My wife has a 2005 Grizzly 660 which has been a very durable, reliable machine.
Posted By: sw99

Re: New ATVs? - 11/03/18 02:58 PM

Not sure if your still looking but I just picked up a 2018 Textron Alterra 500. They were running an end of year deal and I was OTD for $4700 financed at 2.9%. None of the other brands were even close to that price. Around here, 10 - 15 year old machines were still going for a premium.
Posted By: jongies3

Re: New ATVs? - 11/24/18 06:20 PM

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Posted By: DoubleWasp

Re: New ATVs? - 12/04/18 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by sw99
Not sure if your still looking but I just picked up a 2018 Textron Alterra 500. They were running an end of year deal and I was OTD for $4700 financed at 2.9%. None of the other brands were even close to that price. Around here, 10 - 15 year old machines were still going for a premium.


Found a lot of places giving them away for $4500. Sure packs quite a punch for the money.
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