I have a a Murray riding mower I got second hand that has both key/battery start and rope start. The battery died about 10 years ago so I just use the rope start .. does require some odd body contortions since I have to reach forward with leg/arm to extend left leg to hold down clutch and grab rope, but also lean back far enough to keep enough weight on seat so as not to trigger the safety mechanism that kills engine if no weight on seat. Was just wondering when manufacturers got rid of rope start option since I never see them anymore