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Are there synblend 0w20s? #5466569 06/30/20 06:23 PM
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Till today I was sure that 0w20 is only available in a full synthetic flavor.
Found a blend today @ Walmart
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-ULTRACLEAN-0W-20-Synthetic-Blend-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/752307232

So I wonder, is it really syn blend or do they just bottle 0w20 synthetic for marketing/PR purposes?

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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466572 06/30/20 06:26 PM
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There are very few synblends in 0W-20. Castrol, Pennzoil, and Havoline have them.

Here is a thread I started a while back on the same topic:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5434570/0w-20-synblend


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20s? [Re: SlavaB] #5466587 06/30/20 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SlavaB
Till today I was sure that 0w20 is only available in a full synthetic flavor.
Found a blend today @ Walmart
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-ULTRACLEAN-0W-20-Synthetic-Blend-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/752307232

So I wonder, is it really syn blend or do they just bottle 0w20 synthetic for marketing/PR purposes?


off topic SlavaB but here's the PDS for the UltraClean 0W-20...

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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466588 06/30/20 06:48 PM
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Good info in that relatively recent thread. OP should have his questions answered there.


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466605 06/30/20 07:08 PM
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My Honda dealer uses bulk 0w20 for oil changes.


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466673 06/30/20 09:00 PM
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Honda used to be stopped blending it and replaced it with full synthetic.

Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466677 06/30/20 09:03 PM
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Why would anyone want a SynBlend 🤔

Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: kstanf150] #5466701 06/30/20 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kstanf150
Why would anyone want a SynBlend 🤔

I think the relative low numbers of 0W-20 synblends coupled with only a few of them being readily available answers that question smile


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: kstanf150] #5466735 06/30/20 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kstanf150
Why would anyone want a SynBlend 🤔


No idea really. I just wondered if it’s in fact a full synthetic oil since it’s 0w20. Just like all conventional became a blend recently


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466902 07/01/20 09:03 AM
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Come on guys!

Again, you know most all U.S. Marketed "Full Synthetics" are only Syn Blends as agreed upon by the NAB ages ago.

You've been running Syn blend in your Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge and Quaker State for well over a decade.

I really only know one True syn and that was M1 0W20 EP.

. Question?

Does synthetic oil offer advantages over the Current Syn Blends markets as "Fully Synthetic Oil"

Challenge:

One of the hIghest performance approval oils is M1 0W40 FS and its is technically a "Syn Blend" .

If you don't know what "Full synthetic" does why keep asking?

This place is becoming like Groundhog Day!

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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5466920 07/01/20 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Come on guys!

Again, you know most all U.S. Marketed "Full Synthetics" are only Syn Blends as agreed upon by the NAB ages ago.

You've been running Syn blend in your Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge and Quaker State for well over a decade.

I really only know one True syn and that was M1 0W20 EP.

. Question?

Does synthetic oil offer advantages over the Current Syn Blends markets as "Fully Synthetic Oil"

Challenge:

One of the hIghest performance approval oils is M1 0W40 FS and its is technically a "Syn Blend" .

If you don't know what "Full synthetic" does why keep asking?

This place is becoming like Groundhog Day!

- Ken



I'm sure you're full of scientific insights and ran numerous experiments to prove that the true synthetic oil can cure blown head gaskets and sometimes even blindness. Give me a break


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5466931 07/01/20 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SlavaB
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite


Come on guys!
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I'm sure you're full of scientific insights and ran numerous experiments to prove that the true synthetic oil can cure blown head gaskets and sometimes even blindness. Give me a break


Did I say that?

Or are you just embarrassed and throwing my challenge back in my face?

Let us be SMARTER !

Plus I wasn't targeting you, SlavaB. You just made an observation.

- Ken

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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5466965 07/01/20 09:59 AM
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Most Gp III advertised as Full Synthetic are so close to Gp IV in performance that it doesn't really matter.


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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5467100 07/01/20 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Come on guys!

Again, you know most all U.S. Marketed "Full Synthetics" are only Syn Blends as agreed upon by the NAB ages ago.

You've been running Syn blend in your Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge and Quaker State for well over a decade.

I really only know one True syn and that was M1 0W20 EP.

. Question?

Does synthetic oil offer advantages over the Current Syn Blends markets as "Fully Synthetic Oil"

Challenge:

One of the hIghest performance approval oils is M1 0W40 FS and its is technically a "Syn Blend" .

If you don't know what "Full synthetic" does why keep asking?

This place is becoming like Groundhog Day!

- Ken



Stop being facetious. You know good and well he was talking G3 vs G2/G3 blends not G3 vs G4. In the USA G3 is a legal synthetic, get over it.

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Re: Are there synblend 0w20? [Re: SlavaB] #5467329 07/01/20 06:07 PM
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The way I see it, in the US you can call group 3 or group 3 performance synthetic if they have the purity, volatility, detergency taken care of, instead of the high temperature performance that requires group 4.

For most cars spec for 0w20, you likely can't make it to 10k OCI that they are designed for, unlike 5w20 where most of them only spec for 5k OCI. So because of this reason they do not try to make a low cost "blend" that don't last at least 10k. It might be a group 3 / group 2+ blend that is just good enough, instead of a group 3 only that is better.

As long as not too much burn off from the volatility I'd not worry about it. For direct injection, I'd use something with lower volatility and change often just in case.


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