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2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI #5340537 02/04/20 07:19 AM
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This is the first UOA I have personally submitted. It was taken on my Brother In-Laws 2017 WRX. 127,221kms on odometer 9,457km OCI. Let's see if I read this correctly please correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.

The iron seems to be relatively low, being a boxer motor it is most likely wear metals from the crankshaft/thrust bearings.

Aluminum is more than likely Cylinder/piston materials and the copper is going to come from the cooler on this car.

Silicon would be dirt contamination, air filter was dirty and changed at this OCI.

OAI says TBN is slightly low; maybe, but it's not even half the value of the starting TBN. I say it's still well within specs.

I'm surprised they "estimated" the fuel dilution @ >1%. I thought this is where OAI/Polaris shines over Blackstone. This was also a point of interest for me as this engine has been known to be a fuel diluter in earlier years. He is however running a Cobb stage 1 map on the car, maybe the fuel mapping is improved there. Either way with the cST @ 11.4 it doesn't seem to me like fuel dilution is an issue.

Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the results. I'm thinking increasing the OCI to 15,000kms should not be an issue with normal driving (no track use).

Any input?

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Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: STIcandy] #5340553 02/04/20 07:40 AM
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just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution. happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


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Originally Posted by parshisa
just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution. happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


Do you think it's necessary looking at the viscosity?

Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: STIcandy] #5340617 02/04/20 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by STIcandy
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just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution. happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


Do you think it's necessary looking at the viscosity?


Yeah this, it's still on the thicker side of a 5W-30...

Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: STIcandy] #5340630 02/04/20 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by STIcandy
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just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution. happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


Do you think it's necessary looking at the viscosity?



This was also a point of interest for me as this engine has been known to be a fuel diluter in earlier years. [b][/b][u][/u] - to me it's not, but I though it is for you


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Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: parshisa] #5340635 02/04/20 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by parshisa
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just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


Do you think it's necessary looking at the viscosity?



This was also a point of interest for me as this engine has been known to be a fuel diluter in earlier years. [b][/b][u][/u] - to me it's not, but I though it is for you


Sorry don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning you. I was more surprised they didn't properly test for fuel dilution without being asked but I'm not particularly concerned because the viscosity is still quite strong. I would be more inclined to contact them for an exact measurement if it appeared to be shearing.

Thanks for the heads up though. In the future, I will be sure to ask them for actual reading if I'm concerned.

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Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: STIcandy] #5340641 02/04/20 09:53 AM
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just call them and ask to do the test for fuel dilution happened to me in the past - they won't do the test unless the viscosity is substantially low/high or out of grade. They keep a sample for a month so you can call them and request the test to be done.


Do you think it's necessary looking at the viscosity?



This was also a point of interest for me as this engine has been known to be a fuel diluter in earlier years. [b][/b][u][/u] - to me it's not, but I though it is for you


Sorry don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning you. I was more surprised they didn't properly test for fuel dilution without being asked but I'm not particularly concerned because the viscosity is still quite strong. I would be more inclined to contact them for an exact measurement if it appeared to be shearing.

Thanks for the heads up though. In the future, I will be sure to ask them for actual reading if I'm concerned.

No worries mate. That’s what i used to do - in a comment box on the submission form i’d specify to run fuel dilution test, that way I don’t have to call them and ask again


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TBN is fine IMO as this oil starts at 6.0. As parshisa mentioned, OAI doesn't automatically test fuel via GC unless the oil is out of grade. Viscosity is actually very good so don't read too much into their comments. I would just ask them to test fuel via GC if you're curious.

Is this a Cobb Off The Shelf tune or an e-tune/protune? Any other mods?


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Re: 2017 Subaru WRX Motul xclean EFE 5W-30 2 months 9457kms/5876 mi OCI [Re: bluesubie] #5340651 02/04/20 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesubie
TBN is fine IMO as this oil starts at 6.0. As parshisa mentioned, OAI doesn't automatically test fuel via GC unless the oil is out of grade. Viscosity is actually very good so don't read too much into their comments. I would just ask them to test fuel via GC if you're curious.

Is this a Cobb Off The Shelf tune or an e-tune/protune? Any other mods?


Completely stock other than the Cobb OTS stage 1 running petro 94 octane fuel. BTW what's GC?

Anybody have any reservations on bumping the OCI up another 5000 kms and retest? Seems like a waste to change the oil this soon.

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Originally Posted by parshisa

No worries mate. That’s what i used to do - in a comment box on the submission form i’d specify to run fuel dilution test, that way I don’t have to call them and ask again


Good idea. I'll remember that going forward and request it on all my UOA's. Is there a technical term for the test I should request?

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Originally Posted by STIcandy

Originally Posted by parshisa

No worries mate. That’s what i used to do - in a comment box on the submission form i’d specify to run fuel dilution test, that way I don’t have to call them and ask again


Good idea. I'll remember that going forward and request it on all my UOA's. Is there a technical term for the test I should request?

Fuel Dilution GC (gas chromatography) Test. They should know what it is anyway regardless how you call it lol


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