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Lossless audio music #5330436 01/23/20 04:38 PM
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If you have a good sound system and you've never heard about/tried lossless audio you owe it to yourself to audition a lossless recording. The difference is not subtle.

An easy source for lossless recordings is Youtube. Use the search terms "lossless music vinyl" or "lossless audiophile music" or "lossless music".

Searching is not easy, as some Youtube links have 40 to 500 songs on the "playlist" .

The lossless FLAC stuff seems like a great way to get original quality to your equipment digitally, with no loss. So much of it is a real treat.

Here is one that is wonderful, cranked up loud, on a great stereo system:




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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330442 01/23/20 04:45 PM
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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330458 01/23/20 05:08 PM
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Problem is YouTube does compress their videos/music. However, a lossless copy uploaded to YouTube will still sound far far better than a lossy version.

I can’t really tell a difference in the car between lossless and lossy, but with my Sennheiser HD 280 Pro’s the difference is clear as day.


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330463 01/23/20 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujet
An easy source for lossless recordings is Youtube. Use the search terms "lossless music vinyl" or "lossless audiophile music" or "lossless music".
I hate to disappoint you, but youtube audio is not lossless. The original that a user uploaded may have been lossless, but once it gets converted by Youtube and ready for others to see, the audio would have already become lossy.

And the fact that you weren't able to discern the difference just proves the point that a high bitrate lossy MP3/AAC sounds as good as lossless format to majority of folks. smile

https://www.h3xed.com/web-and-internet/youtube-audio-quality-bitrate-240p-360p-480p-720p-1080p
https://support.google.com/youtubemusic/thread/338369?msgid=348540
https://appuals.com/why-converting-youtube-to-320kbps-mp3-is-a-waste-of-time/


If you want lossless, get a TIDAL or Amazon Music HD subscription.


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Skippy722] #5330484 01/23/20 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
Problem is YouTube does compress their videos/music. However, a lossless copy uploaded to YouTube will still sound far far better than a lossy version.



Yes, Youtube does alter the file a bit, seems not to matter. It's still superb and clear. Try it on a good system.


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330538 01/23/20 06:58 PM
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Aging Audiophile Ken here.

Youtube is a very heavily compressed, lossy file comparable to a mid bit rate MP3 file.
It was recently 128kbs mp4 AAC.

More listenable with open music production without a lot going one

I like poking around listening to guys vinyl rigs to hear differences between phono stages and TT and cartidges and stylus shapes.

Even though I cant hear much above 7khz any more - there is still a lot to be hear from the upper mids on down.

Often the diff is great enough to hear in the compressed file.

Now, This guy has a nice upper midfi rig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yYbtXAUEEc

the next guy is a Brit with a great vinyl system with a broadcast rim drive TT, top Graham Slee phono stage and nice cart and stylus.

Those rims drive really maintain a good momentum and pace v. even a good belt


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330563 01/23/20 07:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ay3fB7SnrM


Bob Wood is at it again!


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330570 01/23/20 07:35 PM
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I understand gear has come a long way, but I just can't get away from my ol systems.
I rotate my gear on a fairly routine basis (every few months) and right now what's in is a custom built 2A3 tube amp, JVC QL-A7 TT... oh wait!... not all of my TT cartridges are old. Oh well...

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Another Bob Wood system:

Man I like that Otofon SPU cart!


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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Errtt] #5330587 01/23/20 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Errtt
I understand gear has come a long way, but I just can't get away from my ol systems.
I rotate my gear on a fairly routine basis (every few months) and right now what's in is a custom built 2A3 tube amp, JVC QL-A7 TT... oh wait!... not all of my TT cartridges are old. Oh well...



2a3 nice.

You using an efficient paper coax in an infinite baffle box?

or maybe a University or Altec 604 co-ax?

i worked for bell labs for a couple decades,, I missed grabbing the Western Electric westrex 300B tube amps from the auditorium when they "upgraded" it to garbage equipment.

I didn't have the room in my apartment for the A7 voice of the Theaters smile

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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330590 01/23/20 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujet
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Problem is YouTube does compress their videos/music. However, a lossless copy uploaded to YouTube will still sound far far better than a lossy version.



Yes, Youtube does alter the file a bit, seems not to matter. It's still superb and clear. Try it on a good system.



Yeah, man I've been poking around youtube for a couple years some real good stuff out there
a real treasure trove.

High Five!

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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330603 01/23/20 08:08 PM
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I’d just like to know what makes a great system its a interesting subject.

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Thanks for reminding me of the joy of playing a Pink Floyd album through.

Re: Lossless audio music [Re: dave123] #5330701 01/23/20 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dave123
I’d just like to know what makes a great system its a interesting subject.


Well, my system certainly is not "great", at best, it's acceptable and fun to listen to. It's down on power (125wpc) and really needs 600wpc to drive my (very power hungry) speakers.

I know what I like and what sounds great to me. I like lots of clean power. I like tight sounding floor standing speakers in sealed enclosures, with silk dome tweeters and proper equalization to account for the natural low frequency roll off. Coupled with a sealed sub.

What I actually have are Polk RTia9 speakers which are floor standing, but they are ported, don't have any bass at all, and are certainly not tight sounding down low. Bass drums don't hit hard, they sound muddy. But at least they were not terribly expensive and the sub mostly makes up for the lack of bass.

Technics 1210 MK5 turntable. Works pretty well. It's not audiophile grade, but it's robust, silent and won't generate feedback in my room.

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Re: Lossless audio music [Re: Cujet] #5330718 01/23/20 10:26 PM
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Lol YouTube audio is very compressed... So just because what was uploaded was lossless doesn't mean it is now that it's on YouTube.


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