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OCI older car, modern oil #5242553 10/17/19 04:24 PM
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can I extend the OCI for an older car if I use today's modern oils? I have a 2005 Scion XA that recommends 6 months
or 5k miles but that is based on oil technology from 15 years ago (which I believe was SM rated oil). with new oils can I extend the OCI?

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What is your driving pattern?

I actually think engines of that era are easier to extend the OCI since they aren't direct injection.
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I had an '03 echo with the same engine as your xA; I also have a yaris with the 1NZ-FE; for my driving pattern (36 miles highway to work) I run 12-15K miles with an extended drain oil (amsoil)

Mobil 1 AP or EP should be up to the task too.

If you are short tripping or have significant blowby, probably best not to extend your OCI

Awesome engine btw.

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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: VQLT] #5242605 10/17/19 05:31 PM
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Me thinks something like Supertech Synthetic paired with a filter of your choice would be fine for double the OEM recommendation if your engine is clean, maintained, trouble free, and you do alot of highway.


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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: VQLT] #5242628 10/17/19 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VQLT
can I extend the OCI for an older car if I use today's modern oils? I have a 2005 Scion XA that recommends 6 months
or 5k miles but that is based on oil technology from 15 years ago (which I believe was SM rated oil). with new oils can I extend the OCI?


Get a UOA. It's the only way to be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGOtZDk6wRc


I use the overseas manual to choose my viscosity.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 154k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 60k, SS 5w20/Amsoil

Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: VQLT] #5242632 10/17/19 06:00 PM
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I run regular Mobil 1 in my 1NZ-FE at 9000 to 10,000 mile intervals. I've got over 280,000 miles on it currently and it uses the least amount of oil out of all my vehicles. No issues, no weird noises, nothing. It works fine.

I just replaced the valve gasket on it for the first time and the cams looked great. I have not pulled the oil pan.

Here is the thread I started when I changed out the valve cover gasket:

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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: VQLT] #5242726 10/17/19 07:55 PM
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Having older vehicles myself and plenty of UOAs, here's my recommendation:

short trips / severe duty - stick with 5-6k or whatever the manufacturer recommends

primarily highway use / light duty - 7500mi conventional oil, 10k synthetic.


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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: kschachn] #5242769 10/17/19 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
I run regular Mobil 1 in my 1NZ-FE at 9000 to 10,000 mile intervals. I've got over 280,000 miles on it currently and it uses the least amount of oil out of all my vehicles. No issues, no weird noises, nothing. It works fine.

Good to know. I might have to reconsider my choice and interval. How is it driven?


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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: VQLT] #5242850 10/17/19 10:58 PM
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Every 6 months is not a bad plan anyway. I rather go by the calendar than miles for more than a few reasons.

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Originally Posted by VQLT
can I extend the OCI for an older car if I use today's modern oils? I have a 2005


2005 is older?!?!?

Wow, I'm driving a round in fossils.......


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Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by VQLT
can I extend the OCI for an older car if I use today's modern oils? I have a 2005


2005 is older?!?!?

Wow, I'm driving a round in fossils.......


LOL crackmeup

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My 1999 Ford ohv 4.0L gets 5000 mile OCI and 7000 on M1 EP. Use all the latest synthetics (conventional oils jugs are hardly any cheaper). It has 267k miles and in the last 2 years has done 35k miles a year. I have to add 0.5-1qt between oil changes. I'm sure extending would be fine but I have no desire to change what's working. In fact I think the old low simplistic, lower powe old engines would tolerate extended changes far better than these modern engines that call for 10k changes. Oil changes and maintenance are fun for me so I'm constantly changing oil, filters, ball joints, bushings, transfer case fluids etc. I blame cordless tools mostly for my willingness (not for the oil changes).

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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: ndfergy] #5243048 10/18/19 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ndfergy
Good to know. I might have to reconsider my choice and interval. How is it driven?

Well it only has what, 108 horsepower? So it spends a lot of time at the upper RPM range. I drive mostly city with some highway to and from work.


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Re: OCI older car, modern oil [Re: Linctex] #5243053 10/18/19 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by VQLT
can I extend the OCI for an older car if I use today's modern oils? I have a 2005


2005 is older?!?!?

Wow, I'm driving a round in fossils.......


My thoughts exactly, 2005 was like, yesterday?

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I took a look here as maybe it might apply to my 60's GM stuff but guess not!

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Originally Posted by kschachn
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Good to know. I might have to reconsider my choice and interval. How is it driven?

Well it only has what, 108 horsepower? So it spends a lot of time at the upper RPM range. I drive mostly city with some highway to and from work.

Thanks. So you don't baby it, that's what I wanted to hear.


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