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Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: #5159084
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Hi, everyone. Looking for some info here on the Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20. The F-150 in my signature has been running Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20 since 2012. The issue I have ran into recently is my local Wally World doesn't keep their stock up well on Motorcraft oil. It could be any day that they have it or don't have it and I am not going to keep running back and forth when they finally stock up with it.

My local O'Reilly store has it, but with the price they sell it at, I'll pay over $50 for it at that price, each oil change, which is absurd to me. I might as well take it to a pit, at that price. I have found Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend 5W-20 on Amazon in big 12 quart bulk boxes that, per oil change, only comes out to about $33, nearly saving me 20 bucks over O'Reilly's price.

My question is: Is this oil pretty much the same as Motorcraft? This truck has always ran the quietest on Motorcraft. Almost no cam phaser noise at 162k miles. Just an extremely light phaser tick which it's had since I've owned it (bought it with 40k miles). Some people have told me Kendall is garbage and nowhere even close to as good as Motorcraft. Their basis is nothing more than "I heard from so-and-so".

I'm the kind of person with the mindset of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", and I want to stay as close to the Motorcraft formulation as possible, given my good experience with it and also how sensitive these Ford 5.4 3v engines are. i drop the oil early because the truck sees short tripping, so I just buy Synthetic Blend instead of Full Synthetic since I am not doing the extended drain intervals. I have seen that Kendall and Motorcraft are both made by Conoco Phillips. How close is the formulation of the GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend? Does it perform equally as good as Motorcraft? Does anyone here use Kendall (specifically in the 5.4 3v) and how has your experience been with it? Thanks, in advance!


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159092
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Why don't you order Motorcraft from Walmart.com and have it shipped to store for free?


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: tiger862] #5159094
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Originally Posted by tiger862
Why don't you order Motorcraft from Walmart.com and have it shipped to store for free?

I could do that, but honestly would just rather have the convenience of having it shipped to my doorstep. I know, I'm lazy, lol. Would rather go through Amazon, if I could. I already order a bunch of stuff through them now as it is. Air filters, spark plugs, fuel filters, etc.

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Motorcraft Synth Blend 5W-20

1985 Dodge Ram D100 225 Slant 6
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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159108
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The Kendall and Motorcraft are very close in formulation. Just compare the data sheets side by side. Another option is Havoline in the 6qt. box. You can find it at your local Walmart. You can order Kendall directly from PSC.
http://www.kendallmotoroils.com/synthetic-blend-kendall-motor-oils/

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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159110
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I too hear they are both made by Conoco Phillips, or whatever their new corporate name is. Last time I looked, a few years ago, the Kendall carried 100 ppm Titanium add that the MC did not. To me this makes the Kendall GT-1 a better product.


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159111
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Kendall is Phillip's 66 top tier. It has titanium in the add pack.

http://pqiadata.org/Kendall_GT1_5W30.html

http://pqiadata.org/Motorcraft_5W30.html


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: MParr] #5159115
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Originally Posted by MParr
The Kendall and Motorcraft are very close in formulation. Just compare the data sheets side by side. Another option is Havoline in the 6qt. box. You can find it at your local Walmart.

👍.. and have it shipped right to your front door.

A lot of shops use the GT-1 bulk Kendall syn blend. If I'm not mistaken even the syn blend gets the "liquid titanium" add pak. It's good oil...

Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: BigD1] #5159190
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Originally Posted by BigD1
Kendall is Phillip's 66 top tier. It has titanium in the add pack.

http://pqiadata.org/Kendall_GT1_5W30.html

http://pqiadata.org/Motorcraft_5W30.html

Thanks BigD1, two up to date VOAs from PQIA from MotorCraft and Kendall, they match very well in both physical parameters and chemical add packs, with the exception of the extra 100 ppm of titanium in the Kendall. They are both SN Plus and GF-5 (Kendall web site confirmed SN-Plus even though not listed on PQIA)

Go the Kendall any day of the week.


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159226
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Where you find the Kendall on Amazon? Link please(original poster)

Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159351
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This is good oil. Can be purchased at Kendall's website. For my 5K OCIs on the GDI Hyundai, I'd run the syn-blend. If you like the brand a-lot, you will pay a little extra for it.
4WD just did the synblend route with Pennzoil Gold. It's good oil and a dollar more here or there pays for itself with these two brands. You can't get a bad deal on something that works well.

Kendall is a hard working-man's oil. They specialize in the race car oils and know how to minimize wear and offer good protection.
If I had to choose between this and Motorcraft, I'd go Kendall. I went thru many green-oil Kendall GT 20W50 oils in my younger days.

I bookmarked the website for future reference and maybe even a purchase someday. Thanks for this thread.


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5159388
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
This is good oil. Can be purchased at Kendall's website. For my 5K OCIs on the GDI Hyundai, I'd run the syn-blend. If you like the brand a-lot, you will pay a little extra for it.
4WD just did the synblend route with Pennzoil Gold. It's good oil and a dollar more here or there pays for itself with these two brands. You can't get a bad deal on something that works well.

Kendall is a hard working-man's oil. They specialize in the race car oils and know how to minimize wear and offer good protection.
If I had to choose between this and Motorcraft, I'd go Kendall. I went thru many green-oil Kendall GT 20W50 oils in my younger days.

I bookmarked the website for future reference and maybe even a purchase someday. Thanks for this thread.


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159454
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Havoline Pro DS synthetic is available from Walmart in 6 quart boxes for $19.... that's a really good deal!


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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159457
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Thanks for the replies, everyone! I will probably be going the Kendall route. I notice they sell 2 versions. One is the High Performance and the other is Endurance High Mileage. Are there any real benefits from using a high mileage version over the regular? Thanks again, guys!

Also, @Vern_in_IL Here it is. https://www.amazon.com/Kendall-1074...563032015&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmr0

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1985 Dodge Ram D100 225 Slant 6
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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: Backwoods41695] #5159478
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On an older engine, a HM oil can't hurt, but not necessary.

If it burns or leaks oil, it might help slow it down.


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Castrol GTX HM 5W-30, STP blue bottle; Fram TG 9688.

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Re: Kendall GT-1 Synthetic Blend vs Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20: [Re: addyguy] #5159521
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Originally Posted by addyguy
On an older engine, a HM oil can't hurt, but not necessary.

If it burns or leaks oil, it might help slow it down.

Gotcha. Thanks! smile


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