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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157112
07/10/19 08:10 PM
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Similar results could have been obtained
by using Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W20,
and then splashing on some Old Spice
after finishing up your oil change.


drive


2018 Tacoma 2.7L
EDGE HM 0W20
@ 131k miles
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157290
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This forum has become worthless.


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157424
07/11/19 06:56 AM
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Doublehaul, you're fine using the 0w40 in your situation. It won't cause any issue. The M1 0w40 in particular uses some POE so it's high temperature and engine cleanliness capability is very good. I would probably use a 5w30 or even a 10w30 but you can use the 0w40.

Nice truck. I didn't know you can get the TRD 4x4 with the 2.7L engine. I tried building that and only the V6 came up.


2015 Mazda 3 2.0 - Mobil 1 EP 0w20
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157576
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I have 2...Tacos. A 2019 TRD Off Road with the 3.5 (work vehicle) and a 2019 TRD Off Road Clone with the 2.7. I don't like the 3.5...and as I couldn't get a TRD Off Road with the 2.7 i basically made my own. I ordered it with the factory fender flares, blackout package (wheels, mirrors, tail lights, headlights etc.) Gave it a small lift, and put 32in BFG AT. It has a TRD Pro Grille, 34 inch light bar in the lower grille, a mile tune and a few other minor mods. I really really like it. Its phenomenal off road and pretty good on gas as well. I tow my boat with it...my atv fits in the bed and the bed is large enough for all my needs. Its a 6ft bed access cab truck.


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157645
07/11/19 11:23 AM
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You like the 2TR over the 2GR? I always heard the 2TR was a dog. I drove a 2GR when it first came out and found that it had little torque, but always figured the 4 would be unbearable.


15 Camry Hybrid SE 48K 0W20 Kendall bulk
14.5 Camry SE 2AR 0W20 M1 AFE 44K (Mom's)
98 Chevy Prizm 1ZZ M1 AFE 0W30 148K (Brother's)
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157730
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Hey Dorian,

I do like the 2tr better. In reality both engines are dogs if your used to most v6 or v8 vehicles. I myself came from daily driving a Ford with a 6.2l v8 with over 400hp. To be fair though I had a 2.7 as a recreation vehicle for years prior and only sold it when i got the new one. The 4 is really a great engine around town and off road. It revs a little higher up grades and under WOT but that's the price you pay for a DOHC 4. At higher RPMs it makes almost 200hp...more than V6s did a few short years ago.

I read somewhere that the 2tr-fe tacoma had the worst power to wieght ratio in the lineup. I don't doubt it but that's not why i bough an extremely off road capable small truck. It goes 95mph if needed and is fun to drive in the dirt.

Both engines do the tranny dance on the E way. You set the cruise around say 75mph. The engine immediately shifts into 6th, then immediately shifts into 5th. Should there be any wind or any grade...and i do mean any they shift immediately into 4th where they stay. The 4 running about 3500 RPM and the v6 running about 3200 rpm. I think the difference is honestly the gearing as the 4 is geared more aggressively iirc. I drive my 4cy on the freeway a lot and it doesn't bother me in the least...and I'm running very heavy LT rated BFG AT tires that are 32.5 inches tall.


My reasons for not liking the 2GR are pretty simple. Its a dog...but a complex dog. It makes weird noises as it goes into its complex atkinson cycle, its tougher to work on and perhaps most importantly they have been plagued with problems and complaints from their owners. Myself included. I fully believe the 2.7 to be the most durable and reliable gasoline engine in current production.

While i feel the 2.7 is more reliable...i wish they put the 4.0 in the Taco. I have that engine in my 4runner and its very powerful. Its also quite robust...though not as much as the cast iron 2.7.

Last edited by Doublehaul; 07/11/19 12:56 PM.

2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157739
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Also...the V6 is HORRIBLE to change the oil on. That and my current 4runner are the worst vehicles to service i have ever seen in my life.

2.7? Easy as pie


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157838
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My Venza has the 2.7 in it and is a pleasure to drive. Highway miles I can routinely get 27 mpg without really trying. I'm using 5w-30 Magnatec in it but could get away with 0w-40 in Texas. I use the Magnatec in my F150 so I stick with one flavor and weight of oil. Stock one oil and two oil filters. Changing oil on both is very easy.


09 Venza 2.7 104k 5w-30 Magnatec
16 F150 2.7TT 52k 5w-30 Magnatec
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Tdog02] #5157860
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The Venza actually has a completely different engine. Yours is the 1AR which is closely related to the 2AR that we have in our Camrys. They are very good engines.


15 Camry Hybrid SE 48K 0W20 Kendall bulk
14.5 Camry SE 2AR 0W20 M1 AFE 44K (Mom's)
98 Chevy Prizm 1ZZ M1 AFE 0W30 148K (Brother's)
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157864
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Very interesting. I wish they would update both the 2TR and 1GR using D4-S. A lot of the new Toyota engines just are too peaky. I wish they used variable valve lift to help improve bottom end a bit.


15 Camry Hybrid SE 48K 0W20 Kendall bulk
14.5 Camry SE 2AR 0W20 M1 AFE 44K (Mom's)
98 Chevy Prizm 1ZZ M1 AFE 0W30 148K (Brother's)
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