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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157112 07/10/19 08:10 PM
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Similar results could have been obtained
by using Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W20,
and then splashing on some Old Spice
after finishing up your oil change.


drive


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157290 07/11/19 12:36 AM
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This forum has become worthless.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157424 07/11/19 06:56 AM
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Doublehaul, you're fine using the 0w40 in your situation. It won't cause any issue. The M1 0w40 in particular uses some POE so it's high temperature and engine cleanliness capability is very good. I would probably use a 5w30 or even a 10w30 but you can use the 0w40.

Nice truck. I didn't know you can get the TRD 4x4 with the 2.7L engine. I tried building that and only the V6 came up.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157576 07/11/19 09:37 AM
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I have 2...Tacos. A 2019 TRD Off Road with the 3.5 (work vehicle) and a 2019 TRD Off Road Clone with the 2.7. I don't like the 3.5...and as I couldn't get a TRD Off Road with the 2.7 i basically made my own. I ordered it with the factory fender flares, blackout package (wheels, mirrors, tail lights, headlights etc.) Gave it a small lift, and put 32in BFG AT. It has a TRD Pro Grille, 34 inch light bar in the lower grille, a mile tune and a few other minor mods. I really really like it. Its phenomenal off road and pretty good on gas as well. I tow my boat with it...my atv fits in the bed and the bed is large enough for all my needs. Its a 6ft bed access cab truck.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157645 07/11/19 11:23 AM
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You like the 2TR over the 2GR? I always heard the 2TR was a dog. I drove a 2GR when it first came out and found that it had little torque, but always figured the 4 would be unbearable.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157730 07/11/19 12:54 PM
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Hey Dorian,

I do like the 2tr better. In reality both engines are dogs if your used to most v6 or v8 vehicles. I myself came from daily driving a Ford with a 6.2l v8 with over 400hp. To be fair though I had a 2.7 as a recreation vehicle for years prior and only sold it when i got the new one. The 4 is really a great engine around town and off road. It revs a little higher up grades and under WOT but that's the price you pay for a DOHC 4. At higher RPMs it makes almost 200hp...more than V6s did a few short years ago.

I read somewhere that the 2tr-fe tacoma had the worst power to wieght ratio in the lineup. I don't doubt it but that's not why i bough an extremely off road capable small truck. It goes 95mph if needed and is fun to drive in the dirt.

Both engines do the tranny dance on the E way. You set the cruise around say 75mph. The engine immediately shifts into 6th, then immediately shifts into 5th. Should there be any wind or any grade...and i do mean any they shift immediately into 4th where they stay. The 4 running about 3500 RPM and the v6 running about 3200 rpm. I think the difference is honestly the gearing as the 4 is geared more aggressively iirc. I drive my 4cy on the freeway a lot and it doesn't bother me in the least...and I'm running very heavy LT rated BFG AT tires that are 32.5 inches tall.


My reasons for not liking the 2GR are pretty simple. Its a dog...but a complex dog. It makes weird noises as it goes into its complex atkinson cycle, its tougher to work on and perhaps most importantly they have been plagued with problems and complaints from their owners. Myself included. I fully believe the 2.7 to be the most durable and reliable gasoline engine in current production.

While i feel the 2.7 is more reliable...i wish they put the 4.0 in the Taco. I have that engine in my 4runner and its very powerful. Its also quite robust...though not as much as the cast iron 2.7.

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2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157739 07/11/19 01:00 PM
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Also...the V6 is HORRIBLE to change the oil on. That and my current 4runner are the worst vehicles to service i have ever seen in my life.

2.7? Easy as pie


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157838 07/11/19 02:24 PM
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My Venza has the 2.7 in it and is a pleasure to drive. Highway miles I can routinely get 27 mpg without really trying. I'm using 5w-30 Magnatec in it but could get away with 0w-40 in Texas. I use the Magnatec in my F150 so I stick with one flavor and weight of oil. Stock one oil and two oil filters. Changing oil on both is very easy.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Tdog02] #5157860 07/11/19 02:41 PM
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The Venza actually has a completely different engine. Yours is the 1AR which is closely related to the 2AR that we have in our Camrys. They are very good engines.


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5157864 07/11/19 02:43 PM
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Very interesting. I wish they would update both the 2TR and 1GR using D4-S. A lot of the new Toyota engines just are too peaky. I wish they used variable valve lift to help improve bottom end a bit.


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98 Chevy Prizm 1ZZ M1 AFE 0W30 161K (Brother's)
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5176832 08/01/19 06:01 PM
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Nice report thanks for sharing this. Another thing to remember is Toyotas have a long break in period.

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2008 Toyota Tundra D Cab 5.7 M1 5-20 95000 miles
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2004 Toyota Camry LE 2.4 M1 5-30 133000
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5177346 08/02/19 09:49 AM
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Good to know. My last one never got a UOA but went over a half a million hard miles. It got 5w30 citgo made bulk or 15w40 shell bulk all its life as it was free for me. Jobber filters made by fram

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2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5180493 08/06/19 04:25 PM
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Looks like an excellent report for a young engine, and the oil has plenty of useful life left.

The M1 0w40FS was not stressed. Keep on trucking!


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5183975 08/10/19 11:04 PM
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M1 0w40 is like Franks Red Hot. You can put that [censored] in everything


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Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: skyactiv] #5183993 08/11/19 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
Read the bottom paragraph.

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I wish the OEM attempting to deny a warranty using this the best of luck. About the only way that argument is flying if someone used a 70 grade in the artic then immediately floored it after engine start.


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