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Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer #5097086
05/06/19 04:11 AM
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Someone on another forum mentioned this product. I guess it is “all new” and is designed for “modern” engines that use a lower viscosity engine oil. Lucas claims their product will not increase your oil’s viscosity but the data sheet’s numbers make me skeptical. The data sheet does indicate some synthetic content but it is minimal.

Product webpage: https://lucasoil.com/products/engine-oil-additives/low-viscosity-stabilizer

PDS: https://lucasoil.com/pdf/TDS_Low_Viscosity_Stabilizer.pdf

MSDS: https://lucasoil.com/pdf/SDS_Low_Viscosity_Stabilizer.pdf


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5097097
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I guess they might have been reading here and decided thickening oil isn't always the way to go, so now they have all bases covered.


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5097112
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That "technical data sheet" is laughable.

"Tighter tolerances." Every time I read or hear that I gag.


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5097113
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So now Lucas offers thinner , detergentlesss oil to dilute your thin oil?


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: rooflessVW] #5097120
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
"Tighter tolerances." Every time I read or hear that I gag.


Agree. "Tighter tolerances" to me means taking your part tolerances from say +/- .0003 to +/- .00015; what they apparently mean (and no one that took part in that PDS or advertisement has the technical aptitude to understand) is tighter clearances.

Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: Miller88] #5097169
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Originally Posted by Miller88
So now Lucas offers thinner , detergentlesss oil to dilute your thin oil?


Nailed it.


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5097189
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I have never used or even heard of an oil that had a need to be "stabilized". Just use a quality oil conventional or synthetic and change it per the OM and that is 95% of the battle. Most vehicle engines will easily go 300k by just doing that and the body part will fail long before the engine does. Lucas has always pushed the "Keep that engine alive". on every bottle. Like somehow unless you dump Lucas in the oil . It would DIE from being unstable. LOL! The Lucas wheel toy is kind of a nice fidget spinner though. Most people give it a few spins when waiting in line at auto part stores.


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5097191
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I love the PDS... It claims the "low viscosity" fluid is "medium viscosity" oh Lucas why do you suck so much!


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: BJD78] #5097268
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Originally Posted by Miller88
So now Lucas offers thinner , detergentlesss oil to dilute your thin oil?


A sucker is born every minute.

Originally Posted by BJD78
I have never used or even heard of an oil that had a need to be "stabilized".
The Lucas wheel toy is kind of a nice fidget spinner though.
Most people give it a few spins when waiting in line at auto part stores.


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Enough so ... that they were able to "buy" their name onto a major sports venue


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: Linctex] #5097293
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Originally Posted by Linctex
Enough so ... that they were able to "buy" their name onto a major sports venue


Well, the last couple years the Colts have sucked as well... coincidence?

Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: Linctex] #5097333
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Well good for them, it means they gave the NFL lots of money, nothing more.U of Phoenix has a stadium with their name on it as well and it's not even a real university and most of their credits are worthless, so anything is possible. Lucas got no money from me that's for sure, as I don't buy that grass fed organic snake oil they sell. My oil has always been 100% stable and I only use the conventional stuff. I have never heard of a synthetic oil being unstable either. But apparently Lucas thinks all oil needs stablilizing and apparently they have convinced millions that if they want to "keep that engine alive" they must use Lucas stabilizer or their engine will DIE! LOL!!


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: BJD78] #5097375
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Originally Posted by BJD78
Well good for them, it means they gave the NFL lots of money, nothing more.U of Phoenix has a stadium with their name on it as well and it's not even a real university and most of their credits are worthless, so anything is possible. Lucas got no money from me that's for sure, as I don't buy that grass fed organic snake oil they sell. My oil has always been 100% stable and I only use the conventional stuff. I have never heard of a synthetic oil being unstable either. But apparently Lucas thinks all oil needs stablilizing and apparently they have convinced millions that if they want to "keep that engine alive" they must use Lucas stabilizer or their engine will DIE! LOL!!


Thanks for your Input

Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5098276
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in my mind, it's doubtful this product would reduce friction any better than a good synthetic 5w-30 motor oil of today.

the sds does not list all the ingredients, so what polymer is LO using?
are there any tests? until then I won't use this.

Why doesn't Lucas come back and discuss their products any more? I believe they were here at one time.....


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Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5099514
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Fatty acids, reaction products with alkanolamine and
alkyloxide


I'm guessing this is a surfactant/dispersant, judging on what I found here:

https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1317&context=patents


It's still Lucas, only good if something is bound for the junkyard or auction.

Re: Lucas Low Viscosity Oil Stabilizer [Re: The Critic] #5110829
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