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The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration #5079153
04/18/19 06:22 PM
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An oldie but goodie.

At 2:17, the presenter goes over a few OE filter end caps. Interesting.

It's really amazing how many "Fram is crap" videos are out there because of the fiber end caps. I thought K&N AF had it rough but consumers are bombarded with misinformation on these filter.


Last edited by wemay; 04/18/19 06:32 PM.

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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079218
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The only problem I ever had with the orange cans was a rattle @ startup due to the anti drain back valve not holding the oil in.


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079235
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Already been removed. The conspiracy continues! LOL

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079242
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I've never liked the uber thin cans on these filters.


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079252
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I don't care what they say; I'm not buying a filter that has no metal end caps.

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: das_peikko] #5079254
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Originally Posted by das_peikko
I don't care what they say; I'm not buying a filter that has no metal end caps.


Absolutely. Metal end caps are superior. Just look at Purolator. wink


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079259
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I’ll take an AC Delco Professional like 53 Stude cut open over an Orange FRAM any time.


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079310
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Fram probably outsells other brands at least 2:1 and the statistics don't support the notion that Fram is an inferior construction.

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079312
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How do they justify the lack of filter media against the (often lower priced) competition

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: RDY4WAR] #5079353
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Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by das_peikko
I don't care what they say; I'm not buying a filter that has no metal end caps.

Absolutely. Metal end caps are superior. Just look at Purolator. wink
I haven't bought a filter with a metal end cap for years. It's either plastic like on my BMW or none at all.

Would I get more miles out of my cars if my filters had metal end caps?


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: MParr] #5079370
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Originally Posted by MParr
I’ll take an AC Delco Professional like 53 Stude cut open over an Orange FRAM any time.


Any day ... AC Delco are better with or without metal caps ...

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079442
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"I'll buy a filter with thin paper load bearing media, but will not buy a filter with significantly thicker fiber end caps that bear significantly less load!"


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: kschachn] #5079460
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
Originally Posted by das_peikko
I don't care what they say; I'm not buying a filter that has no metal end caps.

Absolutely. Metal end caps are superior. Just look at Purolator. wink
I haven't bought a filter with a metal end cap for years. It's either plastic like on my BMW or none at all.

Would I get more miles out of my cars if my filters had metal end caps?


Agreed


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Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: DoubleWasp] #5079484
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Originally Posted by DoubleWasp
"I'll buy a filter with thin paper load bearing media, but will not buy a filter with significantly thicker fiber end caps that bear significantly less load!"


And notice right where most of those infamous filters tear ...

I cut some new ones just to see how easy it was ... we have tougher paper on the Xerox machine ... The blended filters are another story ... they seem to have tensile strength ...

Re: The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration [Re: wemay] #5079492
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So the top filters like a M1 or Amsoil Ea have metal end caps. So I will conclude that manufacturers feel the metal end caps are better.

However the cardboard end caps are probably fine for normal OCI.

An oil change with a Fram orange can is better than no oil change.


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