Mobil 1 EP or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (0W-20)

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Wife's 2015 Murano uses dealership Mobil Super Synth 0w20. My 2015 Juke I prefer to use 0w20 PPUP (I get 2-3MPG more vs the Mobile dealership used).

Don't think you can go wrong either way. For what it's worth, Pennzoil is the 'advertised' oil of the Nissan GTR.

 

[Gokhan]

Originally Posted by Patman
I think M1 is the clear choice for YOU because you clearly have an unfounded hatred for Pennzoil.

No, I am not a brand loyalist.

 

[BISCUT]

Mobil fan boy here. But if you or your engine can find a (demonstrable) difference between these 2 oils you sir will be a BITOG superhero.

 

[DirectRejection]

What about M1 AP 0W20 vs Castrol EDGE Gold Bottle 0W20 ?

Two distinctly different oils, both with a 20k mile guarantee.

 

[bfleeman]

Donate the two choices to a needy neighbor and buy Amsoil.

 

[ofelas]

Yes. Say no to Qatari oil and their GTL nonsense.

Originally Posted by bfleeman
Donate the two choices to a needy neighbor and buy Amsoil.

 

[Gokhan]

One thing about the PUPPP 0W-20 is that it has a very thin base oil and a lot of VII. That's why it has a much higher Noack than the PPPP 0W-20. It also lacks dexos1 certification.

It's at the bottom of the list for the base-oil viscosity (what I call high-temperature, full-shear viscosity [HTFSV]), only above the ultra-high-VI TGMO 0W-20 SN.

Some other popular oils such as the M1 HM 5W-30, M1 HM EP 5W-30, M1 AP 0W-20, and M1 AP 5W-30 (however, some data gathered for the M1 AP is from the MSDS and may not be accurate) also did poorly:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...erature-full-shear-viscosity#Post5072263

There are other surprises as well, such as the Valvoline Advance Synthetic (VAS) 5W-20 being virtually a monograde and making it to near the top of the list while the Valvoline "Modern" Engine Oil (VMEO) 5W-20 packing an incredibly and unnecessarily high dose of VII for a 5W-20 and being near the bottom of the list for having a very thin base oil.

 

[fortesquieu]

Originally Posted by Gokhan
One thing about the PUPPP 0W-20 is that it has a very thin base oil and a lot of VII. That's why it has a much higher Noack than the PPPP 0W-20. It also lacks dexos1 certification.

It's at the bottom of the list for the base-oil viscosity (what I call high-temperature, full-shear viscosity [HTFSV]), only above the ultra-high-VI TGMO 0W-20 SN.

Some other popular oils such as the M1 HM 5W-30, M1 HM EP 5W-30, M1 AP 0W-20, and M1 AP 5W-30 (however, some data gathered for the M1 AP is from the MSDS and may not be accurate) also did poorly:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...erature-full-shear-viscosity#Post5072263

There are other surprises as well, such as the Valvoline Advance Synthetic (VAS) 5W-20 being virtually a monograde and making it to near the top of the list while the Valvoline "Modern" Engine Oil (VMEO) 5W-20 packing an incredibly and unnecessarily high dose of VII for a 5W-20 and being near the bottom of the list for having a very thin base oil.


Thanks Gokhan, very informational!

 

[tolian21]

Edit: It's a Nissan Murano 2015, 90% short trips daily and OCI is 6 months or mileage (usually 6 months since I don't hit the mileage).
M1 EP 0W-20 is PAO/POE and PPPP/PUPPP 0W-20 are GTL. So, there is no competition here, with M1 EP 0W-20 being a true full synthetic, even under German law. It's a clear choice to go with M1 EP 0W-20.

Agreed. Assuming additive packs are equivalent, base PAO is superior to GTL base. However, for a typical user that will hardly make any difference. Maybe if you are pushing engine to extreme temperatures, racing and etc.

 

[demarpaint]

IMO Pennzoil dropped the ball with PUP. Given the choice EP. Expanding on choices, Mobil 1 ESP.