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Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany #5004798 02/08/19 12:19 PM
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Scanning through the local Canadian Tire aisle, I noticed that the PP Euro LX 0W30 is Made in Germany now. I don't recall this being the case with the previous PP Euro oils.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004802 02/08/19 12:20 PM
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German Castrol Pennzoil LOL


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004809 02/08/19 12:25 PM
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Huh, I'll have to take a look at the quarts I have in the garage.

How much is Canadian Tire charging for that jug?

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004813 02/08/19 12:27 PM
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Here is a shot of Euro LX in the CT in Calgary. Like your sample, it’s made in Germany. The Euro L 5w30 and the Euro 5w40 that we’re on the shelf beside it were blended in Canada. This was last September. Good eye!

I believe CT was running a sale in the $32 to $35 range. I believe the rest of the PP products as well as Quaker State normally sold in Canada are blended by Shell Canada. (SOPCAN). ( I made up that name.) LOL



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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004819 02/08/19 12:31 PM
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Snagglefoot] #5004826 02/08/19 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Here is a shot of Euro LX in the CT in Calgary. Like your sample, it’s made in Germany. The Euro L 5w30 and the Euro 5w40 that we’re on the shelf beside it were blended in Canada. This was last September. Good eye!

I believe CT was running a sale in the $32 to $35 range.




The Canadian formulas are 5wX because they can't get all the sand out. hide


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004838 02/08/19 12:47 PM
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Low saps, DPF safe if it's 504/507 approved.....oh it isn't actually approved except for the MB 229.x
The only approved 504/507 Volkswagen oils I have encountered are 5W30


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004842 02/08/19 12:53 PM
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I can get that locally and it is high on my "want to try" list. I have no idea if it is German made for sale here, now I will need to check!


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5004863 02/08/19 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Here is a shot of Euro LX in the CT in Calgary. Like your sample, it’s made in Germany. The Euro L 5w30 and the Euro 5w40 that we’re on the shelf beside it were blended in Canada. This was last September. Good eye!

I believe CT was running a sale in the $32 to $35 range.




The Canadian formulas are 5wX because they can't get all the sand out. hide


Haha! Better check your gas tank!
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Snagglefoot] #5004887 02/08/19 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I believe CT was running a sale in the $32 to $35 range.


That's a great price! Cheapest I can get it down here is $10/qt as Advance Auto doesn't consider this to be part of the specials when they run them.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5004888 02/08/19 01:54 PM
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i always question is made in germany for use + sale in germany the same blend as made for export where Group III's are legally "synthetic" but NOT in Germany!!

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Attn Canadian Shoppers:

Pennzoil rebate has been extended to Dec 2019!
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_ca/prom...-9a.html#iframe=L0RJWS9uYXRpb25hbDE5Lw==
Can't wait for the next sale at CT, when I'll be able to get a jug for $30 minus the $10 rebate!
Makes it the cheapest, high quality syn you can buy!
(even cheaper than the CT house brand syn).
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: benjy] #5004967 02/08/19 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by benjy
i always question is made in germany for use + sale in germany the same blend as made for export where Group III's are legally "synthetic" but NOT in Germany!!

No Pennzoil for the german market.


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Originally Posted by turboseize
Originally Posted by benjy
i always question is made in germany for use + sale in germany the same blend as made for export where Group III's are legally "synthetic" but NOT in Germany!!

No Pennzoil for the german market.

Maybe under another name?


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Lolvoguy] #5005033 02/08/19 04:22 PM
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Yes. Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L, being GTL it is not listed legally as a true synthetic but it is (Fischer–Tropsch process).

https://www.shell.de/autofahrer/she...helix-ultra-professional-av-l-0w-30.html


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5005034 02/08/19 04:22 PM
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Shell helix ultra ECT....


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Trav] #5005043 02/08/19 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Trav
Yes. Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L, being GTL it is not listed legally as a true synthetic but it is (Fischer–Tropsch process).

https://www.shell.de/autofahrer/she...helix-ultra-professional-av-l-0w-30.html


If the Pennzoil is identical to the AV-L, it surely is a good oil (see my UOAs for reference). The Shell is also very reasonably priced. Last time i paid 24€ for a 5-liter-jug.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5005080 02/08/19 05:20 PM
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Is this a sissy oil?


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5005105 02/08/19 05:49 PM
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: turboseize] #5005135 02/08/19 06:15 PM
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Nevermind...

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Originally Posted by turboseize
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Yes. Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L, being GTL it is not listed legally as a true synthetic but it is (Fischer–Tropsch process).

https://www.shell.de/autofahrer/she...helix-ultra-professional-av-l-0w-30.html


If the Pennzoil is identical to the AV-L, it surely is a good oil (see my UOAs for reference). The Shell is also very reasonably priced. Last time i paid 24€ for a 5-liter-jug.


That is good price for that oil. I see it for 26€ on motoroel100.de. Its either the AV-L or the ECT but IIRC when I checked it out the AV-L was the closest. Either way its their premium line product. Both those oils are about 20€ for 1 liter at the local parts store so online is the only way to go.


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Originally Posted by turboseize
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Yes. Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L, being GTL it is not listed legally as a true synthetic but it is (Fischer–Tropsch process).

https://www.shell.de/autofahrer/she...helix-ultra-professional-av-l-0w-30.html


If the Pennzoil is identical to the AV-L, it surely is a good oil (see my UOAs for reference). The Shell is also very reasonably priced. Last time i paid 24€ for a 5-liter-jug.

Other names are: SHU ECT C2 C3, AB-L etc.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5005707 02/09/19 12:19 PM
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Just checked Walmart here...our Pennzoil Euro L says made in the USA from domestic and imported components. No German mystique to it.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5005737 02/09/19 01:17 PM
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I am expecting nothing less than 30 extra hp because it is Made in Germany.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: edyvw] #5005787 02/09/19 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
I am expecting nothing less than 30 extra hp because it is Made in Germany.


If Pennzoil plastered “Made in Germany” all over the front of the jug like LM they may sell a whole heck of a lot more...


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: sloinker] #5006278 02/09/19 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
The only approved 504/507 Volkswagen oils I have encountered are 5W30


(FWIW Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is also a certified 504/507 lubricant)

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Originally Posted by sloinker
Low saps, DPF safe if it's 504/507 approved.....oh it isn't actually approved except for the MB 229.x
The only approved 504/507 Volkswagen oils I have encountered are 5W30


No, it’s actually approved

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4651369/List_of_Volkswagen_Approved_Oi

Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Paul] #5007937 02/11/19 01:00 PM
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I don't think that the "Shell Helix Ultra ECT 0W-30" oil is the same as the "Shell Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W-30" oil. The latter is probably, at least recently, the same as the "Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L 0W-30" though, and the "Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX 0W-30" in North America. I'm don't know about the AB-L one, but it looks the same as well.

Check out www.epc.shell.com if you want to compare them.

For a list of VW 504.00/507.00 oils see: https://erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/downloadStaticFile/volkswagen/files/oil/step_50400_50700.pdf

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Says approved for BMW on the front and then no approval listed on the back. Weird.


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Pennzoil Euro LX 0W30 = Shell Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W30 in other global markets.

Spec sheets are identical as are VOA's (you can search.) In Australia Shell import their all 'Ultra' Class oils from 'Europe,' except 5W40, which comes from Hong Kong (5L) or Thailand (1L) (It's weird but there you go.) At present it's my personal favourite oil. It's a 'thick' 30W and meets SN. Sure in Australia it's $56/5L (on sale... frown ) but you get what you pay for.

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Originally Posted by JFAllen
Pennzoil Euro LX 0W30 = Shell Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W30 in other global markets.

Spec sheets are identical as are VOA's (you can search.) In Australia Shell import their all 'Ultra' Class oils from 'Europe,' except 5W40, which comes from Hong Kong (5L) or Thailand (1L) (It's weird but there you go.) At present it's my personal favourite oil. It's a 'thick' 30W and meets SN. Sure in Australia it's $56/5L (on sale... frown ) but you get what you pay for.

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Yepp agree with you 100%

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Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

Yeah, that has to be it.

What BMW do you own that requires Longlife-01?


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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

Dealer oil is different kind of 0W30 and it is not LL01 but LL01FE. BMW is pushing thinner oils in the North America due to driving habits of average driver of BMW here.
By the way, Shell cooks different oils for BMW and are not same formula as Pennzoil in stores.


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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

Yeah, that has to be it.

What BMW do you own that requires Longlife-01?


He has the N54.


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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

Yeah, that has to be it.

What BMW do you own that requires Longlife-01?


He has the N54.

Well, I do not want to sound like a parrot, but Castrol 0W40.


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I thought all BMW LL-01 Oils were 40-weight's?

They're definitely all full saps (Most meet/exceed A3/B4.) PP Euro LX is a C2/C3 class oil. (In essence the difference between C3 and A3/B4 is the saps content.) So while i'm not recomending it for a BMW that requires BWM LL-01, you'd be fine wink

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Originally Posted by JFAllen
I thought all BMW LL-01 Oils were 40-weight's?

They're definitely all full saps (Most meet/exceed A3/B4.) PP Euro LX is a C2/C3 class oil. (In essence the difference between C3 and A3/B4 is the saps content.) So while i'm not recomending it for a BMW that requires BWM LL-01, you'd be fine wink

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LL01 has always been 0w/5w through 30/40. The OP could run a LL04 and just cut the OCI in half (7500 miles in his case)


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5010667 02/14/19 07:47 AM
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Yes, in regards to that aspect of LL-01 it is about a minimum HTHS, not a specific grade.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: edyvw] #5010747 02/14/19 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?

Yeah, that has to be it.

What BMW do you own that requires Longlife-01?


He has the N54.

Well, I do not want to sound like a parrot, but Castrol 0W40.


Hahaha yeah don't worry that's what I'm running. Just wanted to try something else to see but oh well.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #5012924 02/16/19 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?


Here’s a Pennzoil oil with LL-01 on the bottle but in 5w40.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: jeepman3071] #5022393 02/24/19 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepman3071
German Castrol Pennzoil LOL


or GPP for short?


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum EURO LX 0W-30 Made in Germany [Re: Snagglefoot] #5022469 02/24/19 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwh
Hey I really wanted to try this oil but it doesn't have BMW LL01 on the bottle.

But dealer oil is indeed 0W-30 and should be Pennzoil.

Anyone else think BMW won't allow Pennzoil to put LL01 on the bottle to keep dealer sales?


Here’s a Pennzoil oil with LL-01 on the bottle but in 5w40.




I would rather only use 0W oils tho.

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