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New ATVs? #4852210
08/27/18 10:06 AM
08/27/18 10:06 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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Would like to buy a new ATV. Thinking Yamaha. Some recommendations from friends have revered them as about the best out there. Come to think of it, I can't say anyone I know has ever had anything bad to say about a Yamaha.

I like Polaris but don't think they're the greatest. Have a '95 Magnum, but it is too old to reliably count on for long trail rides.

Looking at the 2018 450 Kodiak. I don't think I need anything bigger engine wise, not trying to race.

Honda ATVs good? Or is this an example of just riding on a brand's perception?

I aim to trail ride, and potentially long distances -- I am in Western New York but would love to go and ride the Hatfield McCoy trails on a week long adventure at some point. I like utility as I would like the machine to be able to do work around the house. Also, I want EFI. I do not want to screw around with a carb on an ATV anymore. Power steering I think would be a nice luxury too.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852228
08/27/18 10:28 AM
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The Kodiak is super solid and Yamaha knows their stuff! You really get a great machine for a very fair price. I would take one of the Honda all day long.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852256
08/27/18 11:03 AM
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Port Aransas, TX
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Sure Yamaha Kodiak has a great machine base $5999. No locking differential and can't go from 2 to 4 wheel drive on the fly.

The Polaris sportsman 450 has larger 497 cc engine, much more travel in the suspension and on-demand true 4x4. The 2018 has many improvements, 50% stronger axles and cv joints, beefed up transmission and engine now fully enclosed so no heat on legs. Much more storage on Sportsman and has the third headlight.

If you can find a 2018 Sportsman 450 or 570 they both have $1000 rebates off of their $5999 and $6699 prices.


The Honda 420 has a solid axle, not independent suspension unless you go for the very expensive one. A small machine and very harsh ride.

If you want power steering pretty much add $900 to any model. Polaris has the most powerful and best power steering.


If you test ride them all I'm sure you will find the Polaris has the Cadillac ride.

Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852278
08/27/18 11:33 AM
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I've been out of the ATV loop for a while now but Honda ATVs were always great. They are a no-frills machine that will last a lifetime if they're as good as the ones in the 90's and early 2000's.

I've had older Arctic Cats (just kept finding good deals) and have a 2003 500 4x4 now and it's solid as a rock. All of them have used Suzuki engines and transmissions and have been 100% dead on reliable. I have no idea how the current generation fairs.

Actually I've never heard of any of the major brands being "bad". I'd pick based on what local dealer you like the best.

If I were to spend the money today, it would probably be a Honda. I've ridden every brand and I always liked them the best. Again, I'm really out of the loop on new models.

Last edited by fenixguy; 08/27/18 11:34 AM.

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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852354
08/27/18 12:47 PM
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Talk about being out of the loop. My last ATV was a 1985 Yamaha 225dx 3-wheeler I had until about 1989. Yamahas have always been nice machines.

Last edited by JTK; 08/27/18 12:47 PM.

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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852387
08/27/18 01:20 PM
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Central NY
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I don't know about new, but I've been thinking about getting an older 4x4 ATV for myself.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852472
08/27/18 02:37 PM
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redhat Offline OP
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I completely rebuild my '95 Magnum that had spent the better part of it's last 12 years outside. It runs good, but either has something that when it gets wet shorts out ignition or perhaps I have the float adjusted too low and I'm running out of fuel on hills. Got to narrow it down.

I love it's simplicity, but it really beat me up riding this weekend. I just want something I can hop on and go or decided an hour ahead of time that I'm riding for the day.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852498
08/27/18 03:18 PM
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Where I live, sales of new ATV's fell off a cliff and have been replaced by side by sides/Razors.
Some people think Honda makes more reliable ATV's because they have a good reputation with their cars.
In reality, you cant go wrong with any Japanese brand, Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki, so get what you like.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: Stevie] #4852501
08/27/18 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stevie
Sure Yamaha Kodiak has a great machine base $5999. No locking differential and can't go from 2 to 4 wheel drive on the fly.

The Polaris sportsman 450 has larger 497 cc engine, much more travel in the suspension and on-demand true 4x4. The 2018 has many improvements, 50% stronger axles and cv joints, beefed up transmission and engine now fully enclosed so no heat on legs. Much more storage on Sportsman and has the third headlight.

If you can find a 2018 Sportsman 450 or 570 they both have $1000 rebates off of their $5999 and $6699 prices.


The Honda 420 has a solid axle, not independent suspension unless you go for the very expensive one. A small machine and very harsh ride.

If you want power steering pretty much add $900 to any model. Polaris has the most powerful and best power steering.


If you test ride them all I'm sure you will find the Polaris has the Cadillac ride.






This analysis is spot on with regard to Utility ATV's Honda are workhorse but a brick to ride. In contrast my buddy's Polaris rode like a cloud and always felt well planted and stable. I don't usually go for belt driven but that Polaris was alright.

Sport ATV's are a different story ...the Honda's were always prized for their awesome handling and sharp power. But Yamaha was king of durability. My Raptor 700 was loads of fun. :-)

Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852519
08/27/18 03:39 PM
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I have two ATVs. Both stored under cover until the need to ride. Was just on my 2002 Suzuki Vinson 500 Auto 4WD this a.m. going through some low ground on one of the lots that floods a bit when we get lots of rain. Feels sturdy under you. It goes as fast as I ever want to go. 4X4 is amazing. Winched and has excellent pulling power in Low.

Funny as this may be, I have a 1990 Honda Fourtrax 200 2WD chain driven with the little cover over the storage on the back to putter around the property and mostly used to pull lawn implements and cart. Tires don't tear up the lawn. Starts and goes and goes. Maybe look like Magilla Gorilla on it but at my age, I don't care. My wife still at least likes me.

Truly think ATV selection and use is all about upkeep with maintenance regardless the make and model.Too many used great ATVs out there to purchase new at the prices they are asking.

Your guess on the carburetor float adjustment would be my guess too. Wire shorts in a NY ATV left outside requires a lot of patience tracing continuity. Get a wiring diagram and have at. With the look of those photos, you have a handle on it with seeing real nice work done.

Neighbors have Yamaha and Polaris. They like theirs too.

Find a maintained 450 - 500 ATV and keep it fresh in tires and drive line. Trail riding with a crew is lots of fun when you have the confidence that the machine will get you to the destination.


Last edited by Recalculating; 08/27/18 03:41 PM.

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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852549
08/27/18 04:07 PM
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I'm waiting for the three wheel version to return! lol


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852601
08/27/18 05:16 PM
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I bought 3 Honda ranchers in 2000. Two of them have over 5000 miles on them and one has 7500 miles on it. If I was to have one I really like the Rincon but it does not have power steering available. I would probably do the Rubicon with independent rear suspension and power steering. The 3 Hondas I have now have been pretty much bullet proof

Re: New ATVs? [Re: JTK] #4852724
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Originally Posted By: JTK
Talk about being out of the loop. My last ATV was a 1985 Yamaha 225dx 3-wheeler I had until about 1989. Yamahas have always been nice machines.


That brings back memories, I had a 1984 225DX that I put enough miles on to wear out 2 sets of rear bearings. I rode the daylights out of that thing!


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4852836
08/27/18 09:17 PM
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I donít know anything about modern ATVs but my 2005 Honda Rancher has been fantastic. 2 years ago I had my mechanic rebuild the carb because I let it sit too long. It runs great. I donít use it much anymore though. 3000 miles the first 5-6 years and 300 miles maybe since then.


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Re: New ATVs? [Re: redhat] #4853134
08/28/18 09:40 AM
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redhat Offline OP
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Thank you. The new Polaris models sure look nice. Maybe my perceived quality issues are just incorrect? Are Polaris reliable?

In looking up online reviews, many seem to sure mention the ride quality of the Polaris as being better than the other makes.


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