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#4781192 - 06/08/18 11:18 AM Predator generators
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Giving some thought to getting rid of my inverter generator and getting a Predator 4000 watt generator instead. The Powerhouse I have is 2000 watts and it's always been a pain to get it started. Figured a 4000 would be a little more practical and reviews seem generally favorable. Anything I should watch out for? Mostly Field Day use for ham radio, backup power if there's an extended power outage.
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#4781206 - 06/08/18 11:27 AM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Does it have a fuel line valve? Shutting the fuel line off and letting it run until it stops helps prevent the carb from gumming up.
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#4781217 - 06/08/18 11:38 AM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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No exp with genset. BUT the Predator I re-powered my Sno- Thro with is very easy to start. I'm tempted to buy another and keep it for a
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. Replacing the engine was waay easier than fixing a 40 yr old Tecumseh grin2
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#4781235 - 06/08/18 11:58 AM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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The non-inverter generator will have much more noise and fuel consumption.

Proper put-away by draining the fuel system is essential for trouble free starting after months of storage. Whether you have a cut off valve or not, you should empty the gas tank then run until it runs out.

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#4781254 - 06/08/18 12:22 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Sherman
Giving some thought to getting rid of my inverter generator and getting a Predator 4000 watt generator instead. The Powerhouse I have is 2000 watts and it's always been a pain to get it started.


It applies to all marks/brands wink



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#4781266 - 06/08/18 12:42 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Some more knowledge wink




Actually it is not such a biggie....unless you have 2 left hands laugh
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#4781272 - 06/08/18 12:45 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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I have the Coleman 4000 which is the same thing as the Predator. Great little genny! I turn the fuel valve off every time its used and allow it to run out before storing, I also keep stabil in the fuel tank. Starts first time, every time I've ever needed it and runs like a top!
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#4781291 - 06/08/18 01:14 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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I have the big quiet Predator generator for my camp trailer. Handles the A/C with ease, runs quiet, and starts extremely easily. My son (9 last summer) was starting it with the pull cord pretty easily.
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#4781354 - 06/08/18 02:20 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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If you have propane or natural gas, go that route. Gasoline is a PIA. You can do all the things needed so it will start right back up. But storing the many gallons of gas that is going to be needed for running during an extended outage. That is a PIA by itself.
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#4781370 - 06/08/18 02:38 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Registered: 02/10/08
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: Dave Sherman
Giving some thought to getting rid of my inverter generator and getting a Predator 4000 watt generator instead. The Powerhouse I have is 2000 watts and it's always been a pain to get it started. Figured a 4000 would be a little more practical and reviews seem generally favorable. Anything I should watch out for? Mostly Field Day use for ham radio, backup power if there's an extended power outage.


I have the Predator 4000 and I like it a lot. Good price, fairly quiet, starts easy. It has the fuel shut off, so you kill the fuel to run the carb dry.

Things to keep in mind: Get rid of the China made spark plug early (or buy a spare NGK and tape it to the unit), store it with Stabil in the fuel, and realize it is 4000 peak watts, 3200 running watts. If that's not enough juice, step up to the next size.

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#4781410 - 06/08/18 03:29 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Donald]
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Originally Posted By: Donald
If you have propane or natural gas, go that route. Gasoline is a PIA. You can do all the things needed so it will start right back up. But storing the many gallons of gas that is going to be needed for running during an extended outage. That is a PIA by itself.


I'm not sure I'd want to run a genny off propane - if you're using 20/30/50/100lb bottles the storage is the same issue as gas although it doesn't go bad but tanks rust. And if you've got a tank for heating/cooking you'll be competing for that propane unless you upgrade. And then there's the de-rating on Propane.

Natural gas would be the best but sizing and plumbing will have to be taken into account. It also de-rates same as propane.

Gas isn't that bad if you have a detached shed to store 10-15 gallons. I store the generator full (5 Gallons), 2 5 gallon cans, a 2.5 gallon can. I do mean to add another 5-10 gallons though. I use StaBil and MMO and rotate through using them for lawn care and once a year I dump the gas into the truck and fill it all up. If there's a disaster I can go for a while on that and within 1 hour can be in quite a few major areas to get more gas.

I've got the old 5500 watt Chicago Electric Blue generator. It works great, starts pretty easily (electric) and runs great. I'd not hesitate to buy another. I'm seriously thinking of the 3500w inverter for the camper.


Edited by itguy08 (06/08/18 03:30 PM)

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#4781440 - 06/08/18 04:07 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Registered: 04/03/18
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Loc: MN
Unless you have a true diaphragm style carburetor, turning off the fuel valve will not allow you to run the carburetor dry. The engine will stop running, but residual fuel will remain and It is still necessary to manually drain the float bowl.

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#4781479 - 06/08/18 04:50 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: HeritageHighRoof]
Spartanfool Offline


Registered: 02/10/08
Posts: 262
Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: HeritageHighRoof
Unless you have a true diaphragm style carburetor, turning off the fuel valve will not allow you to run the carburetor dry. The engine will stop running, but residual fuel will remain and It is still necessary to manually drain the float bowl.


Yes, this is true. The Predator has a manual drain bolt on the carb bowl. Not as convenient as the spring loaded ones on B&S engines, but it does the job.

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#4781513 - 06/08/18 05:22 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
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Registered: 06/15/03
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Loc: ME
I have a duel-fuel generator. Trade my tired old propane tanks that people just give me for Blue Rhino then refill the Rhinos at BJs. They're stored in a woodshed so if they rust out and leak, they don't leak in my residence. This would take many years vs many months for gasoline.

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#4781520 - 06/08/18 05:32 PM Re: Predator generators [Re: Dave Sherman]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
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Loc: Slovenia
Originally Posted By: Dave Sherman
The Powerhouse I have is 2000 watts and it's always been a pain to get it started. Anything I should watch out for?


Could be even that you just need to adjust valve lash...

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