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RIP IOM TT rider Adam Lyon #4777826
06/05/18 01:57 AM
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He was a rookie at the TT this year. Course knowledge is everything at the TT, I was told that doesn't happen for at least three years of running there, so if in doubt, slow down a bit till you get your bearings. It's impossible to know if that was a factor, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Condolences to his family and friends.

TT rider killed at Isle of Man TT

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The second one now this year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-44334611

Dan Kneen died on Wednesday in the qualifiers.


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Re: RIP IOM TT rider Adam Lyon [Re: 02SE] #4777974
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I was watching that last night. Sad. It is crazy how those guys average 120 plus mph on that course with all the turns and bumps. I'd be scared to even try it. Dunlop broke the lap record, that guy is not human. It's crazy how he can run that fast.


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I'm conflicted about the deaths. On one hand, the skill and capability of riders and machines are amazing. Those skills and abilities are taught to others and humankind in general. On the other hand, when the risk of dying "per race" is high, it's just not worth it.


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Re: RIP IOM TT rider Adam Lyon [Re: 02SE] #4777989
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Bikes are soooooooooooo powerful.


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Sad and RIP


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I saw that yesterday and it was a real gut punch. I know someone with that same last name, obviously it wasn't him but incredibly sad. It also hits hard when they are younger than me.


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Re: RIP IOM TT rider Adam Lyon [Re: 123Saab] #4778124
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Originally Posted By: 123Saab
The second one now this year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-44334611

Dan Kneen died on Wednesday in the qualifiers.


RIP IOM TT rider Dan Kneen

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I'm right with you. On the one hand, I think it's awesome that in this day and age, when you can't even smoke a cigarette in a bar in my town, men can still race on public roadways. On the other hand, is it worth it? Like F1 in the late 60s/early 70s, the probability of death just seems too high (to me). I marvel at it, but I don't know...

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It is a Mans sport.


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Since 1907 about 150 participants have been killed. Add spectators and the number grows to about 250. The most dangerous motor sport event in the world. Crazy man!

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Originally Posted By: gman2304
Since 1907 about 150 participants have been killed. Add spectators and the number grows to about 250. The most dangerous motor sport event in the world. Crazy man!


Definitely crazy ... one small mistake and you're dead. They try to put up barriers where it's obviously dangerous if you go off the road, but there's still probably 70% of the road that is unforgiving if you go off course. RIP Adam.

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It is a Mans sport.


Manliness isn't taking needless deadly risks...like the guy who jumped from a plan into a net without a chute

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Originally Posted By: Cujet
On the other hand, when the risk of dying "per race" is high, it's just not worth it.


This is where it gets murky, but when you say the risk isn't worth it, to whom are you referring?

The riders obviously think it's worth it or they wouldn't be out there taking the risk. The spectators who stand on the side of the road must think it's worth the risk to them or they'd have stayed at home and watched it on TV.

Oddly enough, most often when a rider gets killed on a race track their families aren't out with picket signs reading "Ban racing". They more often than not let it pass with a "well, they died doing something they loved".

People keep calling for legislating against risk, but the reality life is full of risk. It's learning how to do your own risk assessments and weigh that up vs the consequences that helps us develop and grow.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for those left behind but at the end of the day nobody gets out alive.

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Agreed. I have no family, so had I ever accumulated the skill level to do this, it would be a blast. Similarly, I'd enjoy watching it in person.


Plain, simple Garak.

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