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ATF drain and fill at 19K #4772765 05/30/18 09:14 PM
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Iíll be changing engine oil tomorrow and have 4qts of Honda ATF. Iím a bit uncertain if I should swap tranny fluid as well since Iím already there. Car (Honda Pilot) is at 19K currently and havenít had ATF changed yet. Level, color, shifts are all good. Should i wait another 5k perhaps or change it tomorrow? What would yíall do if you were in my shoes?


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772770 05/30/18 09:18 PM
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I'd probably do it.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772771 05/30/18 09:19 PM
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Factory trans fill = follow the owner's manual

If you like, you could change it 25%-30% earlier than suggested.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772773 05/30/18 09:19 PM
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Since your still running the factory fill I would change it. And every 25k there after.

Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772774 05/30/18 09:22 PM
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Do a drain and fill. The fluid itself may be in good shape, but there will be a fair amount of wear-in metals present, so flushing some of that out would be a good idea.

Consider catching some in a clean container to send off for analysis to see how things are doing and get a better idea of when to do the next drain and fill.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772781 05/30/18 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the feedback folks. Do you guys have anything against filling up through the dip stick hole? Fill plug location on the new pilots is totally retarded and requires several components to be removed before i can get a socket on it...donít feelnlike doing it all...especially with the left foot in the cast


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772785 05/30/18 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: parshisa
Thanks for the feedback folks. Do you guys have anything against filling up through the dip stick hole? Fill plug location on the new pilots is totally retarded and requires several components to be removed before i can get a socket on it...donít feelnlike doing it all...especially with the left foot in the cast


Many trannys don't have a fill hole. Down the tube is the only way.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772802 05/30/18 10:00 PM
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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772813 05/30/18 10:17 PM
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Do it, I do a drain and fill on my Honda every other oil change, and it always responds well.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772816 05/30/18 10:20 PM
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During the warranty period, I'd wait until the MM tells you to change it

Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772825 05/30/18 10:33 PM
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19k and every other oil change just seems way too often. It's a sealed system so it's not picking up dirt, and I'm not convinced metal shavings are an issue and will drain out. Metal shavings are more likely to stick to the pan and case than anything but are more likely to be picked up by the filter.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: dishdude] #4772836 05/30/18 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
19k and every other oil change just seems way too often. It's a sealed system so it's not picking up dirt, and I'm not convinced metal shavings are an issue and will drain out. Metal shavings are more likely to stick to the pan and case than anything but are more likely to be picked up by the filter.


If you run 10k OCIs then that's every 20k. That might be a little premature but If I had a brand new automatic trans I would try to keep the fluid as clean as I could.

The less ferrous debris that gets stuck to/inside the solenoids, the better.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772852 05/30/18 11:20 PM
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Get it out as soon as you can. Clutch and gear wear in material is what contaminates the factory fill. I would do 3 consecutive D&Fs to get most of it out, not just one.


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772854 05/30/18 11:24 PM
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Here is a good post showing how each drain reduced the amount of contaminants cought by the magnet. Keep in mind that there are also non ferrous material from the clutch packs that the magnet will not pick up.
Odyssey drain and fill


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Re: ATF drain and fill at 19K [Re: parshisa] #4772860 05/30/18 11:42 PM
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Too soon. Iīd wait more 19k. At that mileage, if it looks clean, it is clean.


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