Update on 2004 "Tic Tac" UFO Encounter by F/A-18s

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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Do you honestly believe that the number of "flying objects" that are "unidentified" is zero ?


It doesn't matter, because no one can PROVE what they've seen. Let alone what they are. And that is assuming they are in fact anything. And this with literally hundreds of thousands of "sightings" over a period of decades. At some point common sense has to enter into this. Let's give the UFO lovers and believers like yourself the benefit of the doubt here. And assume these things are actually "spacecraft" containing advanced life forms from another world billions of miles away.

Why would they make the entire trip, only to buzz pilots? Or buzz Phoenix at night in a "V" formation? Or land in some swamp in Tennessee at 2:00 AM? In front of some drunk hillbilly named Billy Bob? Or "abduct" some overweight housewife from Georgia, who is on both Welfare and Prozac? You know the one. It's the story in the Enquirer that's right under the headline, "Chocaholic mom gives birth to sugar coated baby".

Why don't they set down on the front lawn of MIT at 10:00 AM on a Monday morning? It makes no sense. None of it. Just like this idiotic lunacy there are space ships with bodies of "aliens" being kept at Area 51. Every form of "proof" put up by the believers of this nonsense is questionable and speculative. And in many cases, downright idiotic. All of it. And it's all cross polluted with individuals who do nothing to give any of it any substance. The people who believe in this foolishness are their own worst enemies. Because for over 50 years they've all failed to take out their own trash. It's even more idiotic than the Democrats hanging on to Pelosi.

It's all no different than these people who have "sighted Bigfoot", and "ghosts" in peoples attics. There has been NOTHING concrete ever produced that PROVE any of this stuff even exists. And the "video" that seems to get out of this kind of stuff from time to time, always manages to be grainier than a porn flick that took $20.00 to produce. Just like "global warming". People believe in it because they want to. Not because they are overwhelmingly convinced with irrefutable evidence. And let's face it. Most of these same people believe O.J. didn't do it, and we faked the Moon landings. This kind of "belief" all manages to come out of the same gene pool. Where common sense is less important than buying their weekly lottery ticket.
 
You haven't read a word I said before your rant...must be one of those days that ends in ...d...a...y..

Gullible "orders followers" swallow the swamp gas, flock of geese, because it suits their simplistic thought process...and the MAN told me. Applying it thereafter to every event gives them a smug superiority complex, as opposed to occasionally having to rub a couple of neurons together and form their own (as opposed to someone else's) conclusion.

Project Blue Book was started to keep track of sightings of the SR71. Clearly people all over the place saw some things that were beyond their understanding of man's capabilities, and reported it.

It was built by people (more than one), kept a secret, and to the vast majority was an "Unidentified Flying Object".

What else has skunkworks got going ?
 
BTW, my daughter and her peers at highschool saw an "I2" over the hill behind their school on Thursday...none of your dismissive stereotypes there.
 
There's been quite a few UFO incedents where multiple people have observed it at the same time. Then there are all the stories of abductions.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
BTW, my daughter and her peers at highschool saw an "I2" over the hill behind their school on Thursday...none of your dismissive stereotypes there.


So what was it?
 
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Shannow
BTW, my daughter and her peers at highschool saw an "I2" over the hill behind their school on Thursday...none of your dismissive stereotypes there.


So what was it?


clearly...and I'll start typing really really slow...unidentified.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
.....Clearly people all over the place saw some things that were beyond their understanding of man's capabilities, and reported it.....


So what? What does that prove or disprove? A grand total of nothing. And none, repeat, none of what they've either seen, or think they have seen, has ever been identified. (That's the "U" in UFO). So you have hundreds of thousands of people who saw something they couldn't identify or explain. A "light". An "object". Again, so what? How does ANY of that link us to, "not being alone"? It doesn't. Not any more than a weekday rerun of Rosanne.

My issue is not with people seeing things they can't explain. It's with the constant correlation that because they can't explain what it is, that somehow it helps solidify the link that, "we're not alone". It does no such thing, and never has. My wife could go through my tools, and she would be mystified by half of them. And not be able to explain the other half. That doesn't mean they came from another world.

And when all of these, "educated people who can think for themselves", stand at a podium with a microphone and an audience, or write a book with their vivid, free spirited imaginations, and actually try to insinuate or establish the possibility that link exists, based solely on what they don't know, we're right back to the fat housewife in Georgia.
 
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Shannow
.....Clearly people all over the place saw some things that were beyond their understanding of man's capabilities, and reported it.....


So what? What does that prove or disprove? A grand total of nothing.


What you were misquoting me was from my reference to project bluebook, which was established to track sightings of the A12...people reported THEIR anomolous experiences, and the people/agencies flying these secret planes could correlate their own activities to what people were reporting.

As to what it proved or disproves was that people were seeing and reporting something that was beyond their understanding of human capabilities.

And it WAS...and it was OURS, our secret weapons programmes.

(Note I'm typing slowly again, as you can't seem to keep track or entire posts)
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Project Blue Book was started to keep track of sightings of the SR71. Clearly people all over the place saw some things that were beyond their understanding of man's capabilities, and reported it. It was built by people (more than one), kept a secret, and to the vast majority was an "Unidentified Flying Object". What else has skunkworks got going ?


Originally Posted By: Shannow
What you were misquoting me was from my reference to project bluebook, which was established to track sightings of the A12.


"Project Blue Book" was / is nothing but a better way for people like you to buy into all of the B.S. you so desperately want to believe. That housewife in Georgia looks more and more like she fits right into your narrative. You should give her a call!
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Project Blue Book was started to keep track of sightings of the SR71.


Originally Posted By: Shannow
What you were misquoting me was from my reference to project bluebook, which was established to track sightings of the A12.


It seems regardless of, "how slow you type", the end result always appears to be the same..... Total B.S. It's interesting how your "information" transcends time. Since you are so keen on "Project Blue Book", here's a little more fact you obviously need to educate yourself with. Project Blue Book was actually started in 1952, to deal with UFO investigations.... Not to track spy plane sightings that didn't even exist then.

"The program has analyzed and investigated thousands of reported UFO sightings from the years of 1952 to 1970."


https://www.disclose.tv/project-blue-book-the-air-forces-ufo-program-313728

"According to Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, by the end of 1951, several high-ranking, very influential USAF generals were so dissatisfied with the state of Air Force UFO investigations that they dismantled Project Grudge and replaced it with Project Blue Book in March 1952.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

The Lockheed YF-12A first flew in 1963. 11 YEARS later. The SR-71 did not take it's first flight until the end of 1964.... A full 12 years after "Project Blue Book" was created. So to insinuate one was created to keep track of the other is ludicrous. Forget facts. You can't even get close with dates. You and that Georgia housewife have more in common than even I thought. I'll bet she types real slow too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
 
Pretty drastic change in POV in two consecutive posts Bill...do you have a thing for Georgia housewives, or only guys that serve tennis balls at them with "no mercy"
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Bill...do you have a thing for Georgia housewives,......


Only in how much you seem to have in common with them, in regards to how much B.S. you both spew.
 
Petition to the audience here...Did I state, or suggest that Unidentified equated to little green men (or that subject that shan't be named, bigfoot or anything else ?)

Thus eliciting Billt460s typical tourette's behaviour ?
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Petition to the audience here...Did I state, or suggest that Unidentified equated to little green men (or that subject that shan't be named, bigfoot or anything else ?


The "audience" isn't going to save you. Anymore than you trying to change the subject is. I never said you or anyone else here believed in "little green men". (Anymore than I ever said people in other countries, "should break every law"). Or enjoy seeing race car drivers die. Along with all of your other stupid, blind, false insinuations. You have a lot of trouble reading and translating the written word. Nothing new there. You need to start reading and understanding words. Not waste your time trying to play with them.

The fact is people do believe in other life forms elsewhere. Or else desperately want to. What you did do is what so many of your ilk does on this subject. And that is put forth bogus information to try and prove a non existent point.

Your "Project Blue Book" is nothing but a big joke that UFO lovers love to point to, that proves nothing. In spite of you falsely trying to give it credibility. By saying it was developed to track sightings of spy planes that didn't exist at the time. That is pure B.S. It's creation had nothing what so ever to do with "spy planes". You're all over the map on this. People see things they can't explain. So what? The fact they can't explain them doesn't link them to "aliens". Never has, and never will.

The fact they can't be explained proves nothing in itself. What it does do is give some people false reasoning, to attempt to connect the dots to a silly, correlation to life somewhere else. Just like the whole "global warming" crowd does with all of their stuff. They have their blind faith followers, the same as all of this nonsense does. Their information is just as bogus as yours is. If you are a member of that crowd or not doesn't matter. What you did do was post stuff And that is what my posts have proved. Regardless of how much interference to try to run.
 
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Would you 2 guys please agree to disagree and go to your respective corners . You are embarrassing yourselves and the rest of us .
 
Are we alone in the universe? Probably not.

Are they visiting us? Almost certainly not.

Do unidentifiable objects seen in the sky have anything to do with the first two questions? Absolutely not.
 
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Yah-Tah-Hey
There are no UFOs, only UFO stories.Where is the evidence?


There's NEVER been an UNidentified Flying Object ?

EVER ?

...WOW

I'm not saying that little green men landed at Roswell.

Something crashed...they released information, then changed the story for secrecy...

It could well have been a home goal for all that we know, but the "weather balloon" coverup was amateurish.
The ranch foreman for the Foster Ranch located about thirty miles southeast of Corona,NM described the debris as "bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tin foil, a rather tough paper and sticks"... "they tried to make a kite out of it." That is what debris from a weather balloon array and radar targets would look like to most individuals. There never was any mention of dead aliens for another thirty some year. The glue that has held this totally fabricated tale of aliens among us has been the idea of a government cover up to keep the public from panicking. Nothing but a modern American myth propagated by tin horns looking to make a buck. And some of them did just that. Same thing with the JFK assassination. Most of the younger people in the US today believe the JFK assassination to be a conspiracy because of one thing, Oliver Stone's "JFK." Listen to almost anyone discussing that even and the "magic bullet" will pop up in straight through the president and tumbled through John Connally's chest in a straight line.
 
Well, I think most people on this board are smart enough, and educated enough, and rational enough, to realize that the numbers alone are overwhelmingly against us being alone in the galaxy, let alone the whole universe.

As far as whether we’ve been visited, I tend to believe the numbers are in favor of that, as well. Just look at the age of the universe, and then look at our neighborhood. Sol is a relatively young star, and our civilization is very young. Other civilizations could be FAR older...with correspondingly more advanced technology.

What about the “universal speed limit” (light), you ask? Well, I personally believe that that problem is just another engineering hurdle to overcome. I’m quite sure other civilizations have overcome the problem of the vast distances in space, and I also believe that humankind, given enough time, will also unlock the secret to traveling to other planets in a reasonable amount of time.
 
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