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Amazon vs Advance Auto #4753142
05/10/18 03:12 PM
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JamesBond Offline OP
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I'm looking to buy Moog front control arms for a 2004 Civic. Amazon price is $52, Advance price is $77 and has a "lifetime warranty". Is the warranty and ability to do a quick exchange in the future worth $25?

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753144
05/10/18 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: JamesBond
I'm looking to buy Moog front control arms for a 2004 Civic. Amazon price is $52, Advance price is $77 and has a "lifetime warranty". Is the warranty and ability to do a quick exchange in the future worth $25?


Are these lowers control arms? If so, check on RA when I bought Moog was cheaper. I remember even AAP with coupon was still expensive.

Amount of effort involved in replacing them, I would buy quality parts and be done with it.


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: maverickfhs] #4753147
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JamesBond Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
Originally Posted By: JamesBond
I'm looking to buy Moog front control arms for a 2004 Civic. Amazon price is $52, Advance price is $77 and has a "lifetime warranty". Is the warranty and ability to do a quick exchange in the future worth $25?


Are these lowers control arms? If so, check on RA when I bought Moog was cheaper. I remember even AAP with coupon was still expensive.

Amount of effort involved in replacing them, I would buy quality parts and be done with it.


Rockauto will be around $3 less than Amazon, but will have the same warranty/shipping issue vs Advance.

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753151
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Moog has dropped off in quality big time, I just got some Problem solver bushings that I wont even put in the car its a waste of labor, in the trash they go, I wont send them back and pay shipping for $8. Moog is a once top shelf name gone bad.
Their LCA have corrosion issues and poor finish (welds. etc) Look at TRW if they have them for your car, very nice fit and finish and a durable e coat.

ProForge is another Taiwan brand that is very well made. For VW strut mounts I only use the Power Flex Poly, UK made and super quality.
Before anyone accuses me of pushing parts brands I use them and they are good, next month who knows they might make in China or India instead of Taiwan.


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753154
05/10/18 03:34 PM
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It depends on how long you're going to keep the car. And also, are the MOOG parts from both places the same part#?
MOOG has two levels of suspension parts. The "R" series and "Problem Solver".


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: Char Baby] #4753159
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JamesBond Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
It depends on how long you're going to keep the car. And also, are the MOOG parts from both places the same part#?
MOOG has two levels of suspension parts. The "R" series and "Problem Solver".


Both are the same part# made in China R series.

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: Trav] #4753163
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Moog has dropped off in quality big time, I just got some Problem solver bushings that I wont even put in the car its a waste of labor, in the trash they go, I wont send them back and pay shipping for $8. Moog is a once top shelf name gone bad.
Their LCA have corrosion issues and poor finish (welds. etc) Look at TRW if they have them for your car, very nice fit and finish and a durable e coat.

ProForge is another Taiwan brand that is very well made. For VW strut mounts I only use the Power Flex Poly, UK made and super quality.
Before anyone accuses me of pushing parts brands I use them and they are good, next month who knows they might make in China or India instead of Taiwan.


Most of the brands available seem like Chinese parts in different boxes. RA has Mevotech and Beck-Arnley but I assume they are no better with an undetermined country of origin.

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: Trav] #4753168
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Did you check Altrom at Napa? They were Made in Canada and definitely better than Moog and price wasn't bad either.



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2006 Acura TSX 180K/AT
Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753182
05/10/18 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: JamesBond
Is the warranty and ability to do a quick exchange in the future worth $25?

Yes.


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753214
05/10/18 04:52 PM
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I never buy anything at Advance Auto without using a discount code. I use Retail Me Not to locate current valid codes. https://www.retailmenot.com/view/advanceautoparts.com Your $77 part is only $57 with the current best 25% off coupon code. You do have to buy online though to take advantage of most of the offers but they give the option to pick up in store almost as soon as the online order is complete.


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753218
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Originally Posted By: JamesBond
Originally Posted By: Trav
Moog has dropped off in quality big time, I just got some Problem solver bushings that I wont even put in the car its a waste of labor, in the trash they go, I wont send them back and pay shipping for $8. Moog is a once top shelf name gone bad.
Their LCA have corrosion issues and poor finish (welds. etc) Look at TRW if they have them for your car, very nice fit and finish and a durable e coat.

ProForge is another Taiwan brand that is very well made. For VW strut mounts I only use the Power Flex Poly, UK made and super quality.
Before anyone accuses me of pushing parts brands I use them and they are good, next month who knows they might make in China or India instead of Taiwan.


Most of the brands available seem like Chinese parts in different boxes. RA has Mevotech and Beck-Arnley but I assume they are no better with an undetermined country of origin.


Not true, there is Chinese and Taiwan, generally Taiwan is better quality but all are made to price point. Moog R is the worst along with Mevotech, Uro, Meyle, Flennor and a few others, the Moog problem solvers just judging from the parts I got lately are not much better, I wont use them again if there is any decent alternative or OE.


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Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753232
05/10/18 05:11 PM
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Chassis parts have gone to heck since Spicer became Raybestos and then got dropped by Affinia....

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753259
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+1 on Canadian made Lots of quality parts for ford can be had.

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: mclasser] #4753272
05/10/18 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: mclasser
Originally Posted By: JamesBond
Is the warranty and ability to do a quick exchange in the future worth $25?

Yes.


Yes based upon what? Not singling you out per se, just figure you have experience.

I think it comes down to how the warranty is implemented. How much of a hassle is it to call the warranty? Do you have to buy the partand ship the busted part? Is reimbursement guaranteed? At whose discretion?

FCP Euro has a "lifetime" warranty on everything. You rebuy the part, send back the original, and they pay you back. Essentially something like that...

For $25 on a $62 part, you're already over a third of the way there. Depending upon how it works, it may or may not be worth it. Other wild cars is if OP factored in an AAP discount code.

Re: Amazon vs Advance Auto [Re: JamesBond] #4753300
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Moog only seems to make the cheap R-series control arms for this car. (Their premium control arms' part numbers start with C rather than R, for example, CK12345)

Delphi has some good control arms for your Civic. Part numbers TC1734 and TC1735. They are made in Turkey. They are probably made by Deeza/Disa. That company makes good parts smile

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