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Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost #4725613
04/13/18 10:14 AM
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Vehicle is a 2017 Ford Escape 2.0l Ecoboost. M1 5W30 Extended Performance (not ESP as on report), in vehicle around 1 year.
Sheared down to a 20w probably from fuel dilution. This was the 2nd oil change from 2200mi to 8400mi. Zero oil added during period.
Short trips Monday-Friday,cold engine-->2.5mi to train station, sit 12 hours, 2.5mi -->home.
Car is driven longer on weekends to fully get warmed up with some longer trips at highway miles.
Oil was pretty stinky, thinking I might dial back to 5000mi changes with the short trip/severe conditions.



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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725627
04/13/18 10:27 AM
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Your wear metals look good, plenty of life left in the oil. The only thing, which seems to be common with EB engines, is it sheared your cST from 11+ to 7.6, from a 30 to a 20. But it doesn't seem to affect the wear numbers. It's the same with my 2.3 EB in our Explorer. I'm curious what your oil life read at the 6200 OC? Did they indicate any fuel in the oil?

Whimsey

Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725637
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5,000 mile OCI is a good idea. Thatís what I do with mine. If you like Mobil 1, stick with the original. Itís cheaper and will serve you well.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725641
04/13/18 10:39 AM
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I just change the oil in our Edge 2.0 Ecoboost. The used oil did not have a noticeable gas smell at all. Just over 8000 miles on the oil and OLM at 20%.

Mobil 1 5W30 Extended P in it now. I plan to run it until the OLM gives me a message at 15%.


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725644
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I think 5000 miles is a good oci for you.


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: MParr] #4725676
04/13/18 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: MParr
5,000 mile OCI is a good idea. Thatís what I do with mine. If you like Mobil 1, stick with the original. Itís cheaper and will serve you well.


I found 10W-30 EP and 5000 mile changes are required in my 3.5 Ecoboost F150.


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Cujet] #4725679
04/13/18 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: MParr
5,000 mile OCI is a good idea. Thatís what I do with mine. If you like Mobil 1, stick with the original. Itís cheaper and will serve you well.


I found 10W-30 EP and 5000 mile changes are required in my 3.5 Ecoboost F150.


??? why?


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: PimTac] #4725746
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I think 5000 miles is a good oci for you.


X2. Your daily grind is definitely short trip, so that falls under severe service. I'd lower the OCIs slightly if it was me but even the sheared oil doesn't seem to hurt anything. The engine seems to handle it just fine. Who knows.


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725766
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They don't test for fuel or show flashpoint? that sucks frown


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725783
04/13/18 01:05 PM
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What was the oil life monitor at? Youíve got a young engine and those are low wear numbers. Fuel dilution is speculative...M1 shears down to 20w in my motor w/o any fuel dilution. Unless you OLM is done or the wear numbers are high, I see no need to decrease the oil cycle.

But, to each their own. Iím a proponent of 5,000 mile cycles w/o any data.


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725795
04/13/18 01:16 PM
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the 10W30 EP should be a bit better as it starts from a 10W + not a 5W less lighter oil to burn off + less viscosity improvers to shear!! i am next door in PA + find the 10W ok in winter + since its "synthetic" most of the waxes are removed from the refined CRUDE oil it is aka group III although some say the extended uses some PAO aka real synthetic in the blend!!

Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725832
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Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Sheared down to a 20w probably from fuel dilution.
"Shear" is a separate thing from fuel dilution. Both things reduce viscosity, hence the confusion.

From Jay a few years ago:---"When an oil shears permanently from a higher viscosity to a lower one, VII polymers are actually cut (sheared), so "shear" is the correct term."

You can easily go 7,500 miles in your situation. Just use Mobil1 0w40 instead. Highly tested (to MB 229.5), and its almost a 30 weight already (12.9 kv100, where 12.5 is the line between a 30 and a 40). Gives you a very tough oil with a tad extra viscosity, so when you fuel dilute you have plenty of room to reduce viscosity. You'll likely finish the oil interval at about 9 cSt kv100, judging by your usage pattern, more margin for you to protect bearings.

Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725872
04/13/18 02:50 PM
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A fellow Long Islander. I'd follow severe service intervals. Between the SSP and LIE, traffic jams, and your short hops to the train station, why tempt fate?


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: Drew2000] #4725894
04/13/18 03:21 PM
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Great White North.. eh
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That's a lot of viscosity loss!


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Re: Mobil 1EP, 5W30, 6200mi, Ford 2.0l Ecoboost [Re: oil_film_movies] #4726007
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Sheared down to a 20w probably from fuel dilution.
"Shear" is a separate thing from fuel dilution. Both things reduce viscosity, hence the confusion.

From Jay a few years ago:---"When an oil shears permanently from a higher viscosity to a lower one, VII polymers are actually cut (sheared), so "shear" is the correct term."

You can easily go 7,500 miles in your situation. Just use Mobil1 0w40 instead. Highly tested (to MB 229.5), and its almost a 30 weight already (12.9 kv100, where 12.5 is the line between a 30 and a 40). Gives you a very tough oil with a tad extra viscosity, so when you fuel dilute you have plenty of room to reduce viscosity. You'll likely finish the oil interval at about 9 cSt kv100, judging by your usage pattern, more margin for you to protect bearings.




I put my 3.5L ecoboost on 0w40 early on Ö then went from 5k OCI to 7k (OLM)

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