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Going thicker to reduce consumption #4725024
04/12/18 07:13 PM
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Ford Fusion, 3.0L V6, 177k miles. Daily driver with mixed city/hwy about 50/50. Currently running M1 AFE 0w-20. Car has always burned some oil, usually about a quart in 6k miles. Iíve been topping off every couple thousand miles and I think itís started burning a bit more. Going to go thicker to see how it affects consumption. No smoke or excessive soot.

Iím deciding between M1 FS 0w-40 and M1 HM 10w-30.

Which would you choose and why?

Cold starting is a non issue, I live in N Florida.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725028
04/12/18 07:20 PM
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Campbellsville, KY
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Maxlife 5w30. laugh


I like Chevy and Valvoline.

'13 Cruze, 1.4T, 113K
'85 GMC C3500, 454, 130K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 169K
'67 Suburban, 350, 331K
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725030
04/12/18 07:23 PM
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Didnt you already use M1 hiMi 10w30?
You would say real good things about it in the past
I thought the consensus was 0w40 was a bit more prone to sheering out of grade
At 150k+ miles the himi seems like a good choice


04 Camry 2az-fe 2.4L 204k QS HiMi 10w30
Supertech white can filter
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725056
04/12/18 07:49 PM
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Yea any good 10w30 high mileage oil should work. I try that first in cars that use a fair amount of oil and then go to 15w40 next if it uses a lot.


yup
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725066
04/12/18 07:57 PM
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Had an 08 Escape with the 3.0L V6 for a while, at over 200K it used about a quart per 5K OCI and I was using various 5w-30 synthetics. I tried 5w-20 and it consumed about a quart every 1K miles which is why I switched to 5w-30.


2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly oils.
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725069
04/12/18 07:58 PM
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M1 10W30 HM

1) HM
2) Lower viscosity spread, lower NOACK


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Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725122
04/12/18 08:34 PM
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try Valvoline Maxlife 20w50 and see if that helps


1994 Jeep 160k Mobil 5000 5w30
2014 Camry 35k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 2k FactFill
2014 HD Ultra 41k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 37k Pennzoil Platinum 5w20
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725128
04/12/18 08:41 PM
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Toss up, just get the cheaper one.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 100K Napa 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 33k PP MIX, NG7047
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725132
04/12/18 08:44 PM
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I'd start out with an HDEO like Delvac or Delo ... 15W-40 ought to be better at residual film (cool start) and better at op temp. See how it goes ... If better you are done. If not, you can move to say Napa Synthetic 15W-50 that is on sale right now smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725137
04/12/18 08:48 PM
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M1 HM 10W-30 would work better in my opinion. Itís got a very low NOACK too at 7.5%


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725140
04/12/18 08:50 PM
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try a non-m1 product. Why stick with M1 when you're not happy with the results.

Last edited by raytseng; 04/12/18 08:51 PM.
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725163
04/12/18 09:05 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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The land of USA-made Subies!
Shorten up your OCI and try a different brand oil. Changing chemistries a couple OCI in a row can help clean things up and free ring lands. Sounds like a perfect chance to use some PYB and a can of Kreen for a 1500mi OCI, then try Maxlife or PPHM for a regular OCI.

Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725198
04/12/18 09:29 PM
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Kentucky
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Maybe a 5w-30 or 10w-30.
I owned a 01 Mercury Sable with the 3.0.
Owners manual stated 5w-30, but Ford TSB came out recommending 5W-20.
I ran 10W-30 until I switched to semi-synthic and then ran 5W-30. I ran 200k on that motor. Still running after I sold the car.


97 Mercury Gran Marquis GS
4.6L V-8 250K
Castrol FS Edge or Castrol FS HM 5W or 10W 30
Kendall Semi-Synthetic 5W-20,5W-30 or 10W-30
WIX Oil 51372 or K&N HP 2010 Oil Filter
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4725245
04/12/18 10:38 PM
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What's the maintenance history? If you've used quality oils and done appropriate maintenance, then I'm not sure that changing viscosity will do much.


'14 Forester XT FA20DIT (Cobb Stage 1)
Edge 0W-40 + FU filter
'15 Legacy FB25 (OEM Stage, uh, neg. 7?)
Edge 0W-20 + FU filter
Re: Going thicker to reduce consumption [Re: toneydoc] #4725262
04/12/18 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: toneydoc
try Valvoline Maxlife 20w50 and see if that helps


Yep, I needed to go way up to apropiately reduce oil consumption in a Ford Vulcan 3.0 V6. Then I did a hyperflush and problem solved ...


ToYota Corolla XEI 2010 1zzfe
Kawasaki Ninja ZX9R B4
Taurus GL Vulcan
Citroen C5 phase I
I used to use syn, now whatever is on sale and never had problems. This noob knows stuff.
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