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#4717330 - 04/05/18 03:35 PM Fram XG10575
zfasts03 Offline


Registered: 07/21/08
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Loc: Bucks, PA
So I am learning the bypass valve setting is too low for the L83 in my `16 Suburban 5.3. The bypass setting is supposed to be 22 psi and the Fram is about 1/2 of that. I have 5 of these filters in stock. What do I do? Use them or return them? If I return them what do I run?

I am reluctant to run the PF63E, due to being an ecore.

I guess I am waiting for the WIX WL10255 to become available for my next change.

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#4717338 - 04/05/18 03:40 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
Hammehead Offline


Registered: 03/31/18
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Maybe with 1/2 psi activating bypass, you will get less or no filtration while warmingup.
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#4717355 - 04/05/18 04:07 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
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Registered: 05/14/12
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If it is specced for your vehicle by Fram, it will perform as needed. They wouldn't do something that would expose them to a huge, yuuuge lawsuit over something as silly as that. Fram XGs are among the best motor vehicle filters available. Use them with confidence. The synthetic media will flow more than a paper media that the PF63E runs, which results in a lower PSID.

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#4717357 - 04/05/18 04:08 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7727
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: zfasts03
So I am learning the bypass valve setting is too low for the L83 in my `16 Suburban 5.3. The bypass setting is supposed to be 22 psi and the Fram is about 1/2 of that. I have 5 of these filters in stock. What do I do? Use them or return them? If I return them what do I run?

I am reluctant to run the PF63E, due to being an ecore.

I guess I am waiting for the WIX WL10255 to become available for my next change.

Life isn't as simple as it used to be!
If you use them in warmer weather, and are easy on the throttle until the engine (& oil) reach operating temperature, you should be OK. Hopefully Wix starts making the 22 PSI bypass ones by the time it gets cold again!
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#4717358 - 04/05/18 04:08 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
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Run the Frams during the warm seasons when the oil viscosity is lower. Run a filter with the 22 psi bypass spec during the winter run. The dealer can not decline a warranty claim for using the correct cross reference (Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act).
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#4717364 - 04/05/18 04:12 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1908
Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada
Originally Posted By: zfasts03
So I am learning the bypass valve setting is too low for the L83 in my `16 Suburban 5.3. The bypass setting is supposed to be 22 psi and the Fram is about 1/2 of that. I have 5 of these filters in stock. What do I do? Use them or return them? If I return them what do I run?

I am reluctant to run the PF63E, due to being an ecore.

I guess I am waiting for the WIX WL10255 to become available for my next change.

Life isn't as simple as it used to be!


Here's what a search of your truck brings up. I would not worry about it.

FRAM ULTRA® SPIN-ON OIL FILTER
XG10575

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
Designed for use with full synthetic oil.

PRODUCT SPECS
Height 4.06
Inside Diameter 22mmx1.5mm Th'd
Outside Diameter 2.984
Anti-Drainback Valve YES
By-Pass Valve Setting 9-15
Style 1
Turning Specification 3/4-1
Base Gasket I.D. 2.454
Base Gasket O.D. 2.756




Edited by Snagglefoot (04/05/18 04:39 PM)

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#4717385 - 04/05/18 04:28 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
Oily_Thing Offline


Registered: 03/16/18
Posts: 37
Loc: Missouri
Quote:
I am reluctant to run the PF63E, due to being an ecore.


What's wrong with the E-core if it is the one spec'ed for your vehicle?
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#4717386 - 04/05/18 04:29 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17908
Loc: PNW
This whole 22 PSI bypass valve thing from GM seems to have some peopole confused. Give Fram a call and ask if they realize they are specifying a filter with a lower bypass valve setting for a GM vehicle where GM says the filter "should have a 22 psi bypass valve".

If Fram (or any other aftermarket filter maker) has done their homework during filter specification to vehicles, they have determined that the delta-p across their filter isn't high enough to require a higher bypass valve setting than what they are using.

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#4717396 - 04/05/18 04:39 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
GM4LIFE Offline


Registered: 08/18/14
Posts: 385
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: zfasts03
So I am learning the bypass valve setting is too low for the L83 in my `16 Suburban 5.3. The bypass setting is supposed to be 22 psi and the Fram is about 1/2 of that. I have 5 of these filters in stock. What do I do? Use them or return them? If I return them what do I run?

I am reluctant to run the PF63E, due to being an ecore.

I guess I am waiting for the WIX WL10255 to become available for my next change.

Life isn't as simple as it used to be!


I got 12 of the classic AC Delco PF63 non-ecore in my garage that I won't be using. Want them?

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#4717425 - 04/05/18 05:25 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: ZeeOSix]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6186
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The delta-p across their filter isn't high enough to require a higher bypass valve setting than what they are using.


There .................. I fixed it for you

TRUTH.

I wish the stupid GM spec would just die already.
Too many people think the sky is falling because their oil filter doesn't have a (ridiculous and unnecessary) 22 PSI bypass valve.
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#4717456 - 04/05/18 06:03 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: Linctex]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 4955
Loc: Great White North.. eh
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The delta-p across their filter isn't high enough to require a higher bypass valve setting than what they are using.


There .................. I fixed it for you

TRUTH.

I wish the stupid GM spec would just die already.
Too many people think the sky is falling because their oil filter doesn't have a (ridiculous and unnecessary) 22 PSI bypass valve.


Maybe not necessary in TX. Up north... maybe eh.
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#4717470 - 04/05/18 06:24 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
novadude Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 1479
Loc: Shippensburg, PA
I've been running e-core PF63Es on my wife 3.6L V6 since new. I'm up to 5 filter changes so far (5-6k mile OCIs), and I've not seen a problem with any E-core I've removed. It's a quality filter, just like all AC Delco filters.


Edited by novadude (04/05/18 06:26 PM)

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#4717565 - 04/05/18 07:27 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
miteclipse Offline


Registered: 11/18/15
Posts: 21
Loc: usa
Purolator is 22 psi

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#4717572 - 04/05/18 07:29 PM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
zfasts03 Offline


Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 259
Loc: Bucks, PA
If the WIX WL10255 isn't available at the time of my next change I guess I will get the PF63E.
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#4717878 - 04/06/18 03:27 AM Re: Fram XG10575 [Re: zfasts03]
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Registered: 04/16/16
Posts: 789
Loc: KS
On my 17 VW Jetta the Fram is specd at 12PSI ADBV. While the OEM is 36PSI. crazy
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